ER9X User Guide
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In case anyone wanted the solution for Arming/Disarming APM activation of Sounds for APM with ER9x.
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Hi, what does this "Update to Version 3" button do which I saw yesterday for the first time on the setup page in eePe?
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Re: ER9X User Guide
A recent change involves modifying two of the custom switch options to allow adding "LATCH" and F-FLOP". This button changes
v1>=v2 to v1>v2 and
v1<=v2 to v1<v2
in any current custom switches to make space for the new options.
I keep a 'version number' with each model, to handle the few occasions where I can't keep the EEPROM structure directly compatible with previous versions. The 'current' version of your model is also displayed beside the button.
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v1>=v2 to v1>v2 and
v1<=v2 to v1<v2
in any current custom switches to make space for the new options.
I keep a 'version number' with each model, to handle the few occasions where I can't keep the EEPROM structure directly compatible with previous versions. The 'current' version of your model is also displayed beside the button.
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getting the most out of a channel
I am an RC and er9x newbie, and am programming my er9x-flashed 9x to use with the NAZA-based quad that I am building. The very best video I have found to explain the setup for flightmodes, etc, can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txBdlRdBni0 . This video has helped me understand that one channel can be used to control more than one switch on the 9x (a revelation for me, at least). What I don't get is, how does it do it? Here is a grab from that video:
I have read in the user guide: "weight: this value multiplies the value from the input". I guess my question is, when one flips a switch, what is happening along that channel? Does it send a slightly different frequency to that channel on the receiver? If so, how many "weights" can one have on a channel?
Basically what I am hoping for here is a more high-level understanding on how this all works. Thanks much!
Steve
I have read in the user guide: "weight: this value multiplies the value from the input". I guess my question is, when one flips a switch, what is happening along that channel? Does it send a slightly different frequency to that channel on the receiver? If so, how many "weights" can one have on a channel?
Basically what I am hoping for here is a more high-level understanding on how this all works. Thanks much!
Steve
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Try here first:
http://openrcforums.com/wiki/index.php/Er9x_user_guide
Weight is the amount of travel your servo will move..
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Weight is the amount of travel your servo will move..
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ER9X User Guide
The transmitter generates a train of pulses, each carrying the information for one channel (in the most common setup, there are 8 pulses, plus a synch pulse to signal the start of the series). The information is in the form of the pulse width, with 1.5ms representing neutral and the range being from 1.0 to 2.0ms for +/- 100%. The receiver separates the pulses and sends the appropriate one to each servo, or in your case it sends the whole train to the flight controller, which knows what to do with the info.
The firmware in the transmitter is what generates the information for each pulse (channel). In the simplest configuration, each channel on the Mixer page has just one input. So the AIL stick might provide input to CH2 (depending on what your flight controller needs). If the weight is 100%, then full travel of the stick gives a range of pulse width from 1.0 to 2.0ms (-100% to +100%). The input can also be a pot or a switch. If a channel has no input (no mix) it simply generates a midpoint signal of 1.5ms or 0%.
Channels can have more than one mix as your example above shows (no limit to the number I'm aware of). A switch can be used to determine which one(s) is/are active. In your case the switch is the 3-position, with each position turning on a different weight and thus producing a different output. A weight of 35, for example will produce a pulse width of 1.5 + (0.5 * 0.35) = 1.675ms (if my mental arithmetic is right). You also have a mix using the Gear switch that over-rides the others (see below regarding "replace").
You can also have two inputs to a channel that add together. For example, if you have a model with rudder but no ailerons, you can set up the transmitter so either left or right stick will steer the plane. If the rudder servo is plugged into CH2, then you can have one mix that feeds AIL stick to that channel and another that feeds the RUD stick to it. The two will add together, so if you move both sticks to the right you will get double throw (that's where the Limits screen comes in, but that's another story).
Or you can have one mix that replaces another, as in the case of throttle cut switches, which over-ride throttle stick input and force the value to -100% (zero throttle). The R line above is an example.
By the way, channels don't control switches -- it's the other way round.
There's lots more to it than this but I hope this whets your appetite for understanding what's going on. There is lots of excellent material in the various manuals.
The firmware in the transmitter is what generates the information for each pulse (channel). In the simplest configuration, each channel on the Mixer page has just one input. So the AIL stick might provide input to CH2 (depending on what your flight controller needs). If the weight is 100%, then full travel of the stick gives a range of pulse width from 1.0 to 2.0ms (-100% to +100%). The input can also be a pot or a switch. If a channel has no input (no mix) it simply generates a midpoint signal of 1.5ms or 0%.
Channels can have more than one mix as your example above shows (no limit to the number I'm aware of). A switch can be used to determine which one(s) is/are active. In your case the switch is the 3-position, with each position turning on a different weight and thus producing a different output. A weight of 35, for example will produce a pulse width of 1.5 + (0.5 * 0.35) = 1.675ms (if my mental arithmetic is right). You also have a mix using the Gear switch that over-rides the others (see below regarding "replace").
You can also have two inputs to a channel that add together. For example, if you have a model with rudder but no ailerons, you can set up the transmitter so either left or right stick will steer the plane. If the rudder servo is plugged into CH2, then you can have one mix that feeds AIL stick to that channel and another that feeds the RUD stick to it. The two will add together, so if you move both sticks to the right you will get double throw (that's where the Limits screen comes in, but that's another story).
Or you can have one mix that replaces another, as in the case of throttle cut switches, which over-ride throttle stick input and force the value to -100% (zero throttle). The R line above is an example.
By the way, channels don't control switches -- it's the other way round.
There's lots more to it than this but I hope this whets your appetite for understanding what's going on. There is lots of excellent material in the various manuals.
Re: ER9X User Guide
I have just flashed my TGY 9X with ER9X after thoroughly reading what appeared to be the most recent version of the User Guide I could find (as per MikeB's post on the previous page of this topic). So my firmware version now reads: er9x-r813 V1.275-Mike 14.08.2014 - but the menus are significantly different to what I'd expected from reading the User Guide beforehand. Did I do something wrong or is this the best description available? If so I would just like to point out that what's really confusing to a noob like me is the Radio Setup section which has no page n/6 structure and, in particular, a completely revised Mode selection menu which I guess is now Controls>Channel Order>RETA etc.. I know I'm very lucky to be able to benefit from the hard work that goes into providing all these kinds of free goodies - so I'm just posting to see the sorts of explanations that would have helped when I started searching.
Re: ER9X User Guide
The new menus are very recent and still didn't make it to the manual so yes, the manual is a bit outdated.. that will probably be rectified soon..
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Thanks jhsa - as a software developer myself I understand that most people never bother reading the manual anyway! I'm just the opposite: often I save myself the cost of buying something useless by downloading the manual first. In the case of er9x I liked what I saw straight away.
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Yes, me too a while ago
If you look, the model config menus, that will look more or less like the general settings, are still not ready. Mike is working on them. If you want a manual that is a little bit more up to date with some of the newer features, try the one for ersky9x which is a version of er9x for more powerful boards, like the skyboard, 9XR-Pro and the Taranis. Of course some of it doesn't apply to er9x, but I think it's worth a look. You can get it here:
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If you look, the model config menus, that will look more or less like the general settings, are still not ready. Mike is working on them. If you want a manual that is a little bit more up to date with some of the newer features, try the one for ersky9x which is a version of er9x for more powerful boards, like the skyboard, 9XR-Pro and the Taranis. Of course some of it doesn't apply to er9x, but I think it's worth a look. You can get it here:
viewtopic.php?f=122&t=5575
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Ah, that explains why I found this 9XR video very helpful for instructing me on how to mix two flight mode switches to get six flight modes from my 9X:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YczzHkRUVxQ
I was hoping to find more info about using 3POS as a mixing source in both sets of documentation but I guess I will have to experiment some more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YczzHkRUVxQ
I was hoping to find more info about using 3POS as a mixing source in both sets of documentation but I guess I will have to experiment some more.
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I'm afraid I often don't have enough time to update the manual as well as er9x, ersky9x, eepe and eepskye.
To see a general idea of what has changed in er9x, keep an eye on this file: http://code.google.com/p/er9x/source/br ... ngelog.txt.
The manual is an open office document, available here: http://code.google.com/p/er9x/source/br ... Manual.odt.
Any comments/edits are welcome.
Mike.
To see a general idea of what has changed in er9x, keep an eye on this file: http://code.google.com/p/er9x/source/br ... ngelog.txt.
The manual is an open office document, available here: http://code.google.com/p/er9x/source/br ... Manual.odt.
Any comments/edits are welcome.
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Re: ER9X User Guide
That .odt comes through (to me) as a 27k file that won't open (corrupt)The manual is an open office document, available here: http://code.google.com/p/er9x/source/br ... Manual.odt.
Re: ER9X User Guide
This is a web page. Open it and download the "view raw file" link.
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That's even more outdated than the other one.
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ER9x Manual
NEW-WIKI fully updated
Seem to keep going to the same place ?
(http://openrcforums.com/wiki/index.php/Er9x_user_guide)
NEW-WIKI fully updated
Seem to keep going to the same place ?
(http://openrcforums.com/wiki/index.php/Er9x_user_guide)
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Yup - it probably WAS new and fully updated when that was written...
But "This page was last modified on 17 November 2013, at 23:26", since then nobody has touched it and nobody removed the "NEW-WIKI fully updated" label either. Standard stuff.
The .odt Mike linked to has however been updated in August 2014, so even if the latest big menu changes aren't in it's still "less outdated".
But "This page was last modified on 17 November 2013, at 23:26", since then nobody has touched it and nobody removed the "NEW-WIKI fully updated" label either. Standard stuff.
The .odt Mike linked to has however been updated in August 2014, so even if the latest big menu changes aren't in it's still "less outdated".
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I am not able to open in the .odt as I am seeing this message: This file is not plain text (only UTF-8 and Latin-1 text encodings are currently supported).
Bob B.
Dose this mean there maybe something is corrupt with my Win7 64bit op ?Bob B.
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To open the file just right click on "View Raw File" and select "Save as"
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Still having trouble.
Went to "View Raw File", Right Click and popup window came up, But only has " Save Link As".
And when I try it, ..... it saves it in the odt file in my Word Document and is not understandable. Where did I go wrong ?
Why is it not able to open as a .pdf file ?
Bob B.
Went to "View Raw File", Right Click and popup window came up, But only has " Save Link As".
And when I try it, ..... it saves it in the odt file in my Word Document and is not understandable. Where did I go wrong ?
Why is it not able to open as a .pdf file ?
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Here it is. I had no trouble downloading it.. I don't understand why yours has a .doc extension at the end..
I think you might need libre office installed.. It's a free office program..
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I think you might need libre office installed.. It's a free office program..
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Or even OpenOffice ...
or the "SUN ODF Plugin" for MS Office ...
or the "SUN ODF Plugin" for MS Office ...
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Re: ER9X User Guide
And here it is in PDF..
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I was just thinking, ...... could be because I use an older version of Word: Word 2000.
I didn't like the newer versions of Word and I did not want to buy the newest versions that seem to come out every year.
The old version work good and has been reliable.
I tried using OpenOffice several years ago and had some trouble with it.
I will look for a "SUN ODF Plugin" for MS Office 2000.
The version of MS Word 2000 seems to be not compatible with .odt files.
The ER9x Users Manual.pdf file works great!
Thank for your very good help.
Bob B.
I didn't like the newer versions of Word and I did not want to buy the newest versions that seem to come out every year.
The old version work good and has been reliable.
I tried using OpenOffice several years ago and had some trouble with it.
I will look for a "SUN ODF Plugin" for MS Office 2000.
The version of MS Word 2000 seems to be not compatible with .odt files.
The ER9x Users Manual.pdf file works great!
Thank for your very good help.
Bob B.
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I'll make an effort to update the manual. I'm currently using OpenOffice 3.2.0, seems to work fine.
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Word of any year is not very compatible with Open Office unless the document is very simple. And I'm pretty sure OO is not compatible at all with a version as old as 2000.
I tried working back and forth between the two programs on some of the documents for the 9XR Pro and finally gave up and learned to use OO. So some of them were done in Word and some in OO. All of them were then converted to PDF.
This kind of situation is why PDF was invented. All documents intended for public access should be in PDF.
I tried working back and forth between the two programs on some of the documents for the 9XR Pro and finally gave up and learned to use OO. So some of them were done in Word and some in OO. All of them were then converted to PDF.
This kind of situation is why PDF was invented. All documents intended for public access should be in PDF.
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I've tried to update the manual a bit with the new "Radio Setup" index menu:
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Re: ER9X User Guide
Hey guys.
well, the er9x manual was really not up to date, and NO ONE stepped forward in at least 2 years to update it. It is difficult for Mike to be developing and updating the manual and at least I wouldn't expect him to do so. He already does a lot by implementing all those cool features that we like so much
The manual was reeeeeally outdated. So, I decided to give it a go. I had no experience with text editors (and I still don't ), so I was just learning as I was doing it.. I've now spent 3 days and nights (literally) trying to bring it up to date and match the latest test version. So some of the stuff you will see isn't still released.. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THIS MANUAL IS AHEAD OF THE FIRMWARE SINCE ER9X STARTED
But anyway, this is just a PRE-RELEASE, or TEST VERSION if you like as there still a lot of work to do. One of them is correcting my bad English
Also Mike is reviewing if for accuracy, in case I put some features in that he doesn't want to implement Joking
I have used some material from existing manuals, like the excellent Turnigy 9XR-Pro manual (Thank you Nigel and Steve), and also some posts from you guys. There is really some good material on the forum.. It's amazing what you can find
This PRE-RELEASE version still doesn't include a credits section but the final release will.
So, I'm just posting this so you get an idea of what is going to be the next er9x manual, and please check if there is something missing that you would like explained in the manual.. Hmmmm, I shouldn't have said that
As I said, open to new Ideas..
Again THIS IS NOT A RELEASE.
Some (maybe many) changes still need to be made.. And my English corrected
João
EDIT: Just that you know; I INTEND TO KEEP THIS MANUAL UP TO DATE FROM NOW ON. ER9X DESERVES IT. And this is the minimum I can do as er9x already did a lot for me.
well, the er9x manual was really not up to date, and NO ONE stepped forward in at least 2 years to update it. It is difficult for Mike to be developing and updating the manual and at least I wouldn't expect him to do so. He already does a lot by implementing all those cool features that we like so much
The manual was reeeeeally outdated. So, I decided to give it a go. I had no experience with text editors (and I still don't ), so I was just learning as I was doing it.. I've now spent 3 days and nights (literally) trying to bring it up to date and match the latest test version. So some of the stuff you will see isn't still released.. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THIS MANUAL IS AHEAD OF THE FIRMWARE SINCE ER9X STARTED
But anyway, this is just a PRE-RELEASE, or TEST VERSION if you like as there still a lot of work to do. One of them is correcting my bad English
Also Mike is reviewing if for accuracy, in case I put some features in that he doesn't want to implement Joking
I have used some material from existing manuals, like the excellent Turnigy 9XR-Pro manual (Thank you Nigel and Steve), and also some posts from you guys. There is really some good material on the forum.. It's amazing what you can find
This PRE-RELEASE version still doesn't include a credits section but the final release will.
So, I'm just posting this so you get an idea of what is going to be the next er9x manual, and please check if there is something missing that you would like explained in the manual.. Hmmmm, I shouldn't have said that
As I said, open to new Ideas..
Again THIS IS NOT A RELEASE.
Some (maybe many) changes still need to be made.. And my English corrected
João
EDIT: Just that you know; I INTEND TO KEEP THIS MANUAL UP TO DATE FROM NOW ON. ER9X DESERVES IT. And this is the minimum I can do as er9x already did a lot for me.
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