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3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:30 pm

HI Everyone,
I have ordered the Creality 3D CR-10 3D Desktop DIY Printer yesterday,
which is on sale for $359.99 at GearBest (https://www.gearbest.com/3d-printers-3d ... 41281.html).
Free shipping to United States. Manufacturing Company: (http://www.creality3donline.com/product ... duct_id=14).
The reviews for the Creality 3D CR-10 are good and with its low cost is said to be very good for beginners.
This is not a small 3D Printer, printing size: X: 300mm, Y: 300mm, Z: 400mm.
Creality 3D CR10 3D Printer_b.jpg
Creality 3D CR-10 3D Desktop DIY Printer
This is will be a new thing for me to learn and my hope is to be able to make (design)
a new 9x case which will move the display screen to the top of the 9x radio.
Anyway this is my hope and goal, that in time I will be able to reach. :)

My thinking is I will need to start out making small RC parts.

Youtube info about the "Creality 3D CR-10 Printer": (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbmdwBwm7BU).

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by jhsa » Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:05 pm

Good luck Bob:)
I would like to do it too, but a bit too expensive for me at the moment.. There are other priorities :) ;)

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:59 am

To move the display screen to the top and move the speaker down to where the screen is.
Move the switches out to the sides some maybe.
Will need to move the 3 pots too, maybe.
Back case will maybe not need much changes, if any.
I do not want to turn the display screen around and will maybe need a longer cable for it.
Main board and battery stay at the bottom.
Power Switch maybe could moved down a little if needed
or cut the unneeded top part of the power switch board (using erSky9x firmware).
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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:00 am

I will at some point need to strip out one of my 9x radio's to take
measurements inside and out of the two 9x halves.

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front of 9x radio case
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back of 9x radio case
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the two inside 9x radio case halves

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by Kilrah » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:42 am

Cool :)

A friend of mine bought that printer too and he's happy with it.


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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:31 pm

I have a spare 9x Display Screen and here I have it set just above the Taranis Gimbals.
May not need to move any switches and will need a longer display cable.
Anyone have a cad of the 9x radio case ? Would help to save a lot of time.
Display Screen top_a.jpg
Display Screen top_b.jpg


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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by jhsa » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:37 pm

If I was doing it, or when I can afford a 3D printer, I want to move the LCD to the top as well. Pots (or sliders) will go on the bottom where I can reach them easily. LCD will be moved to the right, to allow only a couple of switches that I don't normally use in flight, like the switch I use for throttle cut. All the other switches will be moved to the left where I can reach them well with my throttle hand. The right hand side switches on all my radios are completely useless to me. :)
So, LCD on top, and to the right :) This will give an asymmetric look, I wonder how it would come out :) Need to make a sketch really :D ;D

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:51 pm

I like the thinking with 3D printing we could (can) make custom 9x radio cases ! :)

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by jhsa » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:53 pm

I still want to make one out of wood :) Nice winter project actually.. :D

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:59 pm

João, I know you use thumbs, are you using mode 2 ? :?:
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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by jhsa » Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:04 pm

Yes, I fly mode 2

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:21 am

Here is some 9x and FrSky parts which can be made: (https://www.thingiverse.com/search?q=9x ... 8b096a4206),
(https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:820373), (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:820373/#files),
(https://www.thingiverse.com/search/page ... 8ad6e50bc8).
I have been looking for the 9x radio case and have not found yet, thinking no one has done the 9x radio case yet.

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by Kilrah » Tue Dec 19, 2017 8:27 am

I've seen a few custom radio cases, but they would not call it a "9X case" anymore.

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by jhsa » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:15 am

I still have an unused ArUni board.. Building a case for it would be a nice project. Need to upgrade the processor though.

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Re: 3D PRINTING (3D Printer Slicing Softwares)

Post by bob195558 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:35 am

I am thinking to first create a Cad of the stock 9x case and then 3D Print it out properly, before making changes to 3D Print out a Custom 9x Cases.

Bend looking at some 3D Printer Slicing Softwares which some are free downloads.
1) Ultimaker Cura
2) Craftware (Craft Unique)
3) Solidworks
4) Simplify3d ($150.00) which looks very good, but I need to keep cost down.

Found here a list of 3D Printer Slicing Softwares: (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1PR ... SeLmOZiAF4).
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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by Kilrah » Tue Dec 19, 2017 12:02 pm

You're mixing things a bit.
Cura, Craftware and Simplify3D are slicers/machine control programs, i.e. programs that turn existing 3D models into toolpaths that your machine will execute then send those commands to the printer (should you connect to it through USB, or save the result to file for SD card printing, which is preferred). They do NOT allow you to create/design/model parts.
Solidworks is a 3D CAD program that you create parts with, but it cannot turn them into code your machine can execute.

Basically you need (at least) one of each software, one to create your parts and one to slice them (or some you've downloaded).

A common powerful and free for hobbyists CAD program is Fusion360. There's also Sketchup, FreeCAD and others... THIS is where the hard work is :)

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:48 pm

Thank you Kilrah for clarifying the difference.
Back in the 1990's I used for a short time, FeatureMill a slicers / machine control program, it was cool for back then,
as it had a 3D simulation before sending it to the CNC Mill, that back when programs were on floppies.

I do have an old legal version of 2D AutoCad (Win95) that is on floppies too.
But, maybe I should look at an old version (4) (2008) TurboCAD Deluxe 2D/3D for a MAC,
which I picked up on clearance at Staples long time ago and that is on a CD.

I did not know if the 3D CAD programs had been total integrated together with the slicers / machine control programs.
It's been a long time since I played with them I will have a look at these, thank you Kilrah again ! :)

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by Kilrah » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:47 pm

Fusion360 (had typo'd the name) does merge CAD and CAM but only for CNC milling/turning, not 3D printing - so still need to use an external slicer for that.

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Re: 3D PRINTING (3D SLICER SOFTWARES)

Post by bob195558 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:32 am

Found this list of 3D SLICER SOFTWARE TOOLS FOR 3D PRINTERS:
(https://all3dp.com/1/best-3d-slicer-sof ... d-printer/).
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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:11 pm

Studying through the 3D Slicer Software tools for 3D Printers,
I think I will begin with the Cura 3.1.0 (Ultimaker):
(https://ultimaker.com/en/products/ultim ... a-software).

I am still looking at different 3D CAD programs.

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Re: 3D PRINTING (Fusion 360 AUTODESK)

Post by bob195558 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:42 am

I am looking at Fusion 360 (AUTODESK) for the 3D CAD program.
You will need to create a new account (register) with Fusion 360 (AUTODESK).
We can use Fusion 360 for free as an "Enthusiast" (Hobbyist) by first downloading and installing the "Full use of Fusion 360 free for 30-days"
(https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusio ... e=google&u)
And then after installing see,
How to activate Start-up, Student or Educational licensing for Fusion 360
(https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/ ... n-360.html)
1) Select "Trial Counter" in the upper toolbar of Fusion 360.
2) In the next dialog box, select "Register for Free Use".
3) 3 Sign up as Enthusiast (Free).
4) 3 Select the "I accept Terms and Conditions" Checkbox and click Submit.
Then you will only need to re-register ones a year to continue using Fusion 360 (AUTODESK) for free.

Fusion 360 AUTODESK Registration_b.jpg

Fusion 360 AUTODESK Registration_b.jpg



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Re: 3D PRINTING (Fusion 360 AUTODESK)

Post by bob195558 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:50 am

Here is a youtube for beginners using Fusion 360 (AUTODESK) 3D Cad:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5bc9c3S12g&t=923s).
Also: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5tp4QXciK4).
I see I have a lot of work to make the 9x Front Case with all its concave surfaces.
Fusion 360 archive file (file-extension) is .f3d
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Re: 3D PRINTING (Creality 3D CR-10 3D Desktop DIY Printer)

Post by bob195558 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:39 pm

HI Everyone,
Received my Creality 3D CR-10 3D Desktop DIY Printer yesterday (Jan. 02, 2018)
and have been assembling it. :)
There is a lot of info already about setting up the CR-10 3D Printer,
(similar to what we do with our 9x radios, Mods and Upgrades),
so I will post some info that maybe something that I think may have been missed.

Something interesting, I have not powered up the CR-10 yet and when moving the Y axis back and forth the display on the control box lights up.
Looks like the Y axis Step Motor is generating power back to the Control Box.
Could this be a problem ? :?:

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by Kilrah » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:12 pm

It is normal and you should avoid moving the carriages by hand fast for this reason.

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:48 pm

Update: Bed Glass Not Flat :( ,
The bed glass that comes with the CR-10 3D printer is sometimes not flat enough.
This is a common thing with the CR-10 and one way to correct the problem is to purchase the
LOTS Mirrors 12" x 12" ($8.99/4 pack) from ikea: (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/39151700/).
I am having trouble finding, as there is no ikea stores near me
and Ikea says I can not order the Mirrors online from them too.
So I am/will search locally for 12" x 12" (LOTS) Mirrors.


Creality CR10 3D Printer_new.jpg
Creality CR10 3D Printer


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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by michel49 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:03 am

I made it with some pieces of carbon sheet:

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Post by bob195558 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:59 am

Hi michel49,
Where did you find your carbon sheet ?
Do you print directly onto your carbon sheet ?
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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:33 pm

Did find locally at "Home Depot" Glacier Bay 6-piece frameless 12" x 12" (Glass) Square Mirrors for $9.99.
The 12 x12 mirror is flatter, but not perfect, so I leveled the center area of the Heated Print Bed so to be
able to start printing.

For my first 3D Print I chose to make is an upgrade-mod part called "CR-10_Ultimate_Leveling_knob_attachment" (Leveling Wheel) which is download from thingiverse.
See youtube: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMrd-6tNh9Y&t=14s).
From Amazon I purchased esun 3D filament PLD+ (Blue) and then need to make some setting changes in
the Cura slicer program like in "Material", Printing Temperature: 210 degrees C
and Build Plate Temperature: 65 degrees C.
Then save as gcode to desktop and place into Micro SD-Card, power down 3D Printer to insert Micro SD-Card
and power back up, select the new 3D printing file.

Then the first thing that happens is the Heated Print Bed heats up to the
"Build Plate Temperature": 65 degrees C
and the second thing the Printing Head heats up to the
"Printing Temperature": 210 degrees C.
Then the Z, X, and Y axis's start moving and applying the PLD+ material to the Heated Print Bed.
Should take about 4.5 hours to complete the printing.

Leveling_knob_Jan062018_a.jpg

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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:26 pm

Finished first 3D printed part:

Leveling_knob_Jan062018_K.jpg
It stuck to the Heated Printing Bed really hard, very difficult to remove it.

Leveling_knob_Jan062018_o.jpg
I made some print setting changes in "Cura" for the next one and so not sure why there is a gap on the outer rim.
It is very strong so will work very well. :D
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Re: 3D PRINTING (RC Hobby for 3D Printers)

Post by bob195558 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 1:53 am

Here is a tip to cut down on bad prints,
take some foam and put some Cooking Oil (like canola) on it
and fold it around the Filament before it enters the filament feeder.
Foam with  Cooking Oil around Filament.jpg
This will clean and add a little oil to the surface of the filament which gives a little oil lube,
as the filament feeds through the filament-feeder and guide-tube on it's way to the printing head.
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