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FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by MikeB » Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:37 pm

The rumoured FrSky Tx may be more than just a rumour! (Thank you Eva).

Anyone for a 12 channel (or even 18!) Tx.

AND they will apparently be going to allow custom development on it!

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by jhsa » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:01 pm

Mike thank very much for my broken head.. Just fell from the chair.. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Post by cre8tiveleo » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:29 am

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by wallaguest1 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:47 am

price range? do they have any picture? special features? bluetooth?

now we are going to select between ersky9x board, 9xr radio, or x12D...

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Scott Page » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:07 am

I'll be going with the one that has er9x and model match and SD or CF card slot and the freaking screen on top rather than on the bottom. Man I hope they put the screen where it can be seen when flying. O ya... and import mp3 sounds .. .ya.. that's all I want... maybe build in camera and color touch screen too? I'm not asking for too much am I? :-)


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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Romolo » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:28 am

This is a cut and paste from a chat I had with a guy of frsky:

the radio is 12-14 channel
similar with JR, entry level, easy to operation
the firmware platform with base on the er9x or similar
sd card saving
beeping and voice warning
possible to upgrade
display the telemetry data
only PPM
model match
we control the retail price at about 95

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Post by Rob Thomson » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:48 am

Nice!


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Post by SkyNorth » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:18 pm

So I guess I should scrap the ersky9x project?

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by ShowMaster » Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:59 pm

SkyNorth wrote:So I guess I should scrap the ersky9x project?
Not until you/we see it's limitations. As I posted before, great products but Frsky seems to take a very long time to get their rumored products in the market place and then it's many times replaced with a newer version after that.
With FPV and Quads being so hot right now ther's still room for a powerful tx board that can support custom FW. Ersky9x with the help of the brain power here has the potential to expand a lot. Will Amy of the new rumored systems have the CPU and ram power? Same with eraz9x.
Maybe a smaller market but a market.
My delema is to decide what to do about my 2 FlySky systems on prepaid BO at leaders?
I hate store credit!
I guess cancel one on speculation and get the other one for parts or resale at my club field in the wake of all these rumors. One or all will most likely come true in due time.

That said, without great FW none of these systems would be any good so MikeB and Eraz, and all those that write the code and hardware updates are even more important to us all. Without them these new products will remain toys. That's what got us all here in the first place.
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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by MikeB » Sun Apr 22, 2012 4:35 pm

Unless they actually copy your design, I don't think it will be as flexible. They are looking at using an ARM processor, with a FREE RTOS.
We don't know how far they have got with it though, I'll try to get some more info, and where they are, e.g which ARM processor, and prototype stage etc.
They ought to be talking to Brent since he has a working design, and we know which pins need to go where, and from the prototyping and REVB testing we know what problems there have been. They are offering the 'protocol and diagram' open to all.

I'd be surprised if they are only using PPM, they need PXX to get 12 channels.

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Post by jhsa » Sun Apr 22, 2012 6:59 pm

yeah, if they don't change the 18ms update rate on the receiver, for sure they need PXX
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Post by Clivew » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:13 pm

"So I guess I should scrap the ersky9x project?"

I sincerely hope not Brent

What would I do for a hobby? :(

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Post by Flaps 30 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:51 pm

This could be the answer for people like myself who have very limited means to do mechanical modifications to TX's.

If this comes off, it could also help to fill a black hole that seems to have formed concerning the lack of avalability of the 9X. Part of that is generated by the many Sharks that are looking for a fast profit by reselling the gear (modified or not) to people who are frustrated at the usual suppliers not having any stock. No doubt they buy up as much stock as they can, hence why the suppliers almost instantly go out of stock when they get new stock in.

The market is crying out for something like this. :)

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Post by MikeB » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:03 pm

The ersky9x board actually requires very little in the way of mechanical modifications. You just unscrew the stock board, and screw the ersky9x board in. Access to most of the new connectors involves cutting or drilling a few holes in the base of the transmitter. Telemetry may be wired from the back of the DJT module to one of these connectors. Adding a speaker (not necessary but nice) involves wiring a speaker to the plug (supplied) and plugging it in to the audio socket.

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Clivew » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:27 am

The whole beauty of the er9x and ersky9x projects from my point of view is that they are totally unlimited in what they
are capable of achieving, thanks to the continued support of the great programmers here.
If you want something "off the shelf" go ahead, it's your choice.
As Mike said, it's pretty easy to fit the ersky9x board, if you can builld a model aeroplane you can certainly do it!
Some twist drills and some needle files, it's not that difficult.
When you finish it, you can claim "I did that" (at least the easy bit!) ;)

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by ShowMaster » Wed May 16, 2012 8:47 pm

FrSky News

Just got this from Aloft today

We are pleased to have formed a very good relationship with FrSky, so good in fact that they release their new products through Aloft Hobbies! The Lipo Voltage Sensor and the LCD Mounts are a couple of recent examples. Our next shipment will include the new telemetry 8 channel receiver, the D8R-XP. The XP will replace the SP and offers CPPM, RSSI and the choice of an internal or external A1 voltage port. Many more exciting items are nearing production!

FrSky news would not be complete without telling you about the X12D transmitter that is in development. This radio has some impressive specs: 12 channels (expandable to +6), ARM M4 core processor, 212*64 LED back-light LCD, Audio earphone output, 32 native memories + SD card (data logger + extended memories), Three modes selectable: V8 (non-telemetry 8ch); D8 (telemetry 8ch); D16 (telemetry 16ch) with model match. FrSky is still working on testing and software but expects to have this radio available in the third quarter of 2012. Perhaps the best news about this new radio is that it is based on the open-source approach, so there should be a lot of great development from the community, and that ARM M4 processor means there is plenty of power to do some really amazing things.

FrSky D4R-II

We're excited to announce that Aloft Hobbies has this new, very exciting new receiver!
Why is it exciting? It is compact, 4 channels, but supports all of the great features we expect from FrSky plus a full data port for use with all of the sensors (via hub), firmware upgradeable (future proof), and CPPM and RSSI outputs!! Basically they put all of the bells and whistles into their smallest full range receiver. Pardon the pun, this is going to be BIG!

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Kilrah » Wed May 16, 2012 8:56 pm

Cool!

Note to self: Do not stock any extra receivers.... They really come up with new models every month!

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Post by Rob Thomson » Wed May 16, 2012 9:44 pm

Agreed! I have soo many just becoming redundant :)


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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by MikeB » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:54 am

Pictures just released by FrSky:

X9D
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X9D
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X12D
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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by ShowMaster » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:54 pm

Any mention of a price range?
Any mention of stick quality?

Any ideas on what this means? I'm not familiar with XJT or D16 modules?

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Kilrah » Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:10 pm

No idea about price yet. XJT module is the new version of the DJT.
Stick quality should be good, supposedly they come from JR.

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Post by Rob Thomson » Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:02 pm

Only 'price' details are speculative. About a year ago frsky mentioned something like $150

But to be honest.. this was so long back and development of the product had not moved forward; so really cant be relied on!

But would be nice if it was!
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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by ShowMaster » Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:43 pm

Any idea what the X stands for in the XJT?
I know we're all guessing.


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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Kilrah » Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:03 pm

The new protocol.
We'll have V - one way, D - two way, 8CH, and now X - two way, 16CH, model match etc

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by ShowMaster » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:14 pm

Kilrah wrote:The new protocol.
We'll have V - one way, D - two way, 8CH, and now X - two way, 16CH, model match etc
Any idea/guess if we can flash the current DJT modules to this protocol?
So much to read, so little time to build and fly so I ask.


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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Kilrah » Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:20 pm

No confirmation yet, but what they said back then was that existing modules and receivers would get a firmware upgrade.
BUT, they also said the new modules/receivers would have some hardware differences, so some of the new features would not be useable with the old ones.

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by kaos » Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:18 am

Any chance the FW upgrade will include the 16ch capability for DJT. don't care about the model matching. and any hint on 'etc...' ;)

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Re: FrSky Tx (X12D)

Post by Kilrah » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:00 am

16CH was supposed to be part of the upgrade, yes...


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