FrSky X12D or X16D...?

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FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:22 pm

Hi all!

These questions have probably been asked many times, but I can't find good clear answers:

1) Is there a new version of the FrSky Taranis X9D on the way?

2) Is it called the X9D Plus?

3) When will it be generally available?

4) Is there a new radio coming soon called either X12D or X16D, like the prototypes shown in the attached picture?

5) What specifications will / may the X12D or X16D have?

Thanks for answering my questions...

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by Kilrah » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:03 pm

The Taranis Plus is already available.

We know about one other radio, named Horus, but it likely won't be available before next year and specs are unknown.

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:39 pm

@Kilrah

Great! More questions then:

1) Price of Taranis X9D Plus?

2) Does it have a touchscreen? The User Manual from FrSky suggests it has, but I can't see how...

3) Is it an RGB LED backlit screen or just blue?

4) Any idea of a UK Distributor that has them yet?

Thanks again!

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by MikeB » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:30 pm

I thought I posted an answer, but it isn't here!
T9HobbySport had them in stock recently, but they seem to have all gone now (£179.99)!
No touchscreen.
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Wed Sep 03, 2014 6:49 pm

@MikeB,

Didn't think a touchscreen was possible with the current GUI / menu system... You kinda need big graphical buttons for that...

Do you have idea of the production schedule?

The new ones have haptic feedback, correct?

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by mnementh » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:38 am

ck -

Current production, and yes.

Aloft is rarely out of anything FRSky for more than 2 weeks nowadays; I'd guess the Taranis Plus will be back in stock on a similar timetable.


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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:48 am

Update 04/09/2014:

Found some photos of a real Horus on the web:

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Also, an FrSky employee has confirmed the model number on the FrSky forum:
The new radio coming soon called X12D, the specific parameters of it has not been determined.
Thought someone might be interested...

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by Kilrah » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:35 pm

Known, but deprecated already ;)
We have direct contacts with FrSky and know where it's heading, but nothing firm that can be publicly announced yet.

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:47 pm

@Kilrah,

Understood. I'd just never seen these photos before, only the computer generated design studies.

Question: Is this a real Horus or just some sort of mock-up?

Thanks!

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Post by Kilrah » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:48 pm

AFAIK it's what it was supposed to be a few months ago, but plans have changed since then.

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by jhsa » Thu Sep 04, 2014 4:56 pm

Not for worse I hope.. the intention of not bringing open source firmware from the beginning and the chances of.not even being compatible with the open source is already a BIG MINUS in my opinion. That way I won't buy it, but who am I? One in a few hundred thousand. . ;)
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by Rob Thomson » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:11 pm

So much speculation!

Clearly the radio will support open source. Why else would they guys have had any information about it?
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by jhsa » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:18 pm

We will see. I've been waiting for that tx since the beginning. Until now the comments I have read don't look very good.. :(
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by Rob Thomson » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:25 pm

Lol. Comments by who?

Simple case is:

- it will support open source.
- it may ship with an frsky simple firmware (that has been speculated in other threads)
- it looks 'superb'
- it could potentially be ready within 12 months

All good if you ask me :)
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:18 pm

Can anyone confirm rumors that they (FrSky) might be unveiling it at the Chicago Model Fair in October?

Anyone heard about that?

FrSky are showing on the exhibitors list for that show...

Anyone going?

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by Kilrah » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:17 pm

Yes, an unveiling at the Chicago model fair was indeed announced months ago.
But now I have no idea if it's still valid, whether there are delays like often etc.

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Post by jhsa » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:43 pm

Rob Thomson wrote:Lol. Comments by who?

Simple case is:

- it will support open source.
- it may ship with an frsky simple firmware (that has been speculated in other threads)
- it looks 'superb'
- it could potentially be ready within 12 months

All good if you ask me :)
Now we're talkin' ;) :)

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Post by mnementh » Sat Sep 13, 2014 5:27 am

Kilrah wrote:Yes, an unveiling at the Chicago model fair was indeed announced months ago.
But now I have no idea if it's still valid, whether there are delays like often etc.
Aww, dude... yer breaking my heart.

Here I was hoping to be able to put it on my Christmas list. :p


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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by sansha » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:31 pm

Some new images by Engel-mt (German importer)

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https://www.engelmt.de/index.php/sites2 ... _x12d.html

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by sansha » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:32 pm

New information:

Specifications: First informations

 Aluminum CNC base gimbals with high resolution magnetic angle sensors
High resolution IPS screen (800*480), touch operation supported
Bluetooth 4.0
Voice broadcast and recognition*
Inbuilt GPS and WiFi
FrSky OS installed, easy for beginners and expansible for advanced users
Support open source firmware, such as openTX

*Inbuilt GPS and WiFi might be applied on certain configuration only.

Price: unknown 
Delivery time: unknown

All information without guarantee. Until completedversion yet one or the other may change. 
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by jhsa » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:54 pm

Is that a tray radio? :(
It looks like one but I bl***y hope not.. I have been waiting for this radio since the beginning, and if so it was a waste of time..
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by Rob Thomson » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:47 am

As frsky have added these images to there product page on their site...

X9E
http://www.frsky-rc.com/product/pro.php?pro_id=143
A European 'taranis' in a tray format.
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X12E
http://www.frsky-rc.com/product/pro.php?pro_id=144
A hand held radio. (assumed by the fact the sliders point down!
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Not much other info at present.
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by jhsa » Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:56 am

Hmm, you're right.. Also the switches at the top of the radio make me think it might be a hand held radio.. GOOD ;) :)
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by fburden » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:07 am

.... the specs mention Bluetooth 4.0 as well as Wifi, how and why would you use both??

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by fburden » Wed Oct 01, 2014 2:27 am

... the X12D specs mention "Voice Recognition" ...

I got my doubts about about that! am I being too negative?

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by Rob Thomson » Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:41 am

fburden wrote:.... the specs mention Bluetooth 4.0 as well as Wifi, how and why would you use both??
Why does your phone have both?

It is entirely possible that you could use wifi to access the sd-card, or bluetooth. Or either. Who knows!

I would guess this is all subject to change, so dont read to much in to anything.

fburden wrote:... the X12D specs mention "Voice Recognition" ...

I got my doubts about about that! am I being too negative?
I cant see this ever working on a noisy flight line. Let alone the CPU grunt needed! But again.. dont read much in to things that are still a long way off and subject to change.
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:01 am

This post on RC Group Forum from Aloft Hobbies: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthre ... st29574883
Just hop on the next flight to Chicago, and you can hold one in your hands this weekend. Same goes for the X9E and some other cool new FrSky gear.
Strongly suggests that REAL radios X9E and X12D hardware will be shown at the Chicago show!

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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by jhsa » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:45 am

Antenna is in a terrible position.. completely shaded bu the LCD if horizontal

http://www.frsky-rc.com/product/pro.php?pro_id=144

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EDIT: So The Horus is what they originally designed as X16D. I remember the X12D prototype picture had 2 screens. a bigger one at the bottom and another smaller one at the top..
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:02 pm

All,

I would monitor this RC Groups user, as he is actually with FrSky at the Chicago Model Fair right now!

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?u=21108

He says he will post photos of the new radios soon...
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Re: FrSky X12D or X16D...?

Post by citykid » Fri Oct 03, 2014 9:48 am

PHOTOS!

Of running / working radios!

Here's the X12D "Horus":

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Here's the X9E "Taranis++++":

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More info can be found at this thread on RC Groups:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2257301

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