ERSKY9X Coding
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Info about to much silence in voice file: (viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40&start=3270#p126415).
Edit added: oops ! I posted in the wrong place, my error, should have been here: (viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9062&start=330#p126441).
Thank you João for catching my error.
Bob B.
Edit added: oops ! I posted in the wrong place, my error, should have been here: (viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9062&start=330#p126441).
Thank you João for catching my error.
Bob B.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Bob, the post you are linking is just a few posts above your latest post
Not really needed at this point?
Maybe if someone else does have the same problem in the future and can't find the info, then it is good and helpful to link to the solution.
João
Not really needed at this point?
Maybe if someone else does have the same problem in the future and can't find the info, then it is good and helpful to link to the solution.
João
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Cheers Mike.MikeB wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:50 pm In stock at Farnell: http://uk.farnell.com/atmel/atsam4s8ca- ... dp/2215352.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
I've got a couple on the way as well.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
At least it will be an easier job than the Devo7E - much more room to manouver on the 9X boards ...
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
The problem is that I don't know if I could solder one of these with the soldering iron. the AVR chips were already not easy.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
It is not too bad soldering the blighters back on. A nice smooth slightly rounded tip and solder paste does well.
The awkward bit with a soldering iron is getting them off. More than once (in a previous assembly/rework life) with LQF packages I have thought all the legs were free only to end up with lifted pads.
There is a paste that works wonders that sometimes had to used in emercency rework where no smd hot air blower was available. Dunno what it was called tho. Solder off or suchlike. Basically a low-melt paste.
The awkward bit with a soldering iron is getting them off. More than once (in a previous assembly/rework life) with LQF packages I have thought all the legs were free only to end up with lifted pads.
There is a paste that works wonders that sometimes had to used in emercency rework where no smd hot air blower was available. Dunno what it was called tho. Solder off or suchlike. Basically a low-melt paste.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
ChipQuik!
I have mine ready!
Mike.
I have mine ready!
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
That's the stuff!
Also of almost invaluable use are paste stencils. Just the right amout of solder gunk in the right places really ends up with perfect bonds. No bridges, no dry joints ...
Just have to find the little box of them I acquired .. ahem!
Also of almost invaluable use are paste stencils. Just the right amout of solder gunk in the right places really ends up with perfect bonds. No bridges, no dry joints ...
Just have to find the little box of them I acquired .. ahem!
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Removing the old chip is the easiest part As Mike said, ChipQuik
Need to buy some ChipQuik flux as it is really good.. But it is soooo expensive and hard to get
I would really appreciate if someone let me know where to get really good flux paste, and not so expensive.. Most of the stuff we get on ebay is not so good
Thanks
João
Need to buy some ChipQuik flux as it is really good.. But it is soooo expensive and hard to get
I would really appreciate if someone let me know where to get really good flux paste, and not so expensive.. Most of the stuff we get on ebay is not so good
Thanks
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Not so easy without it tho with a soldering iron.
Yeah chipquick is pricy. Look for Rose's or Woods metal ...
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Yeah, thanks.. I'm, more after a good flux at the moment.. I still have some chipquik metal. Without a good flux I can't do anything
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If you mean just flux, rather than solder/flux paste, use TK83 'no clean' flux - years old but it is good stuff. Cheap enough on eBay.
I have no idea what paste I use, as I acquired a big dollop of it from my old works. It is very high quality though, that I do know.
I have no idea what paste I use, as I acquired a big dollop of it from my old works. It is very high quality though, that I do know.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
I prefer flux paste (I think it is called like this), not liquid flux. It helps holding the chips down when trying to align them
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dear god... where has this been all my life... i just watched the "ChipQuik SMD removal procedure" video on youtube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0m_d52m1DU if it works half as well in real life as it does in the video, i have half a dozen "fixes" for other r/c things i want to try this on...
need to find the best/cheapest source for this "ChipQuik" desolder alloy
Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Got ya. Solder/flux paste combined. I do have some I bought from eBay back along that is not half bad at all. Will find out what it is exactly for you.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Mike,
I am completely open on "yes" or "no" on this... i understand if you think this is an idiot question... but... i have started making my cosmetic changes to a clone of the source code for the firmware for my pistol radio...
there is a string constant defined in menus.cpp for ersky9x that contains hardcoded labels for the switches... specifically line 5478 in my copy... line starts with:
"const char SW_3_IDX[] = ..."
if that string could somehow be moved to the languages files, it would make changing those labels for something else easier (i am thinking for the pistol radio titles like swA thru swF might work better.) i am thinking that if that string were moved to the language files, then i could basically create a "language" for the pistol radio ("pi.h" and "pi.cpp" perhaps) and not have to muck with the cpp files that basically contain real/actual code.
of course if there is a better way to do this, that follows your preferred design layout/coding style, i am 100% in favor of that.... just need to know what that might be
I am completely open on "yes" or "no" on this... i understand if you think this is an idiot question... but... i have started making my cosmetic changes to a clone of the source code for the firmware for my pistol radio...
there is a string constant defined in menus.cpp for ersky9x that contains hardcoded labels for the switches... specifically line 5478 in my copy... line starts with:
"const char SW_3_IDX[] = ..."
if that string could somehow be moved to the languages files, it would make changing those labels for something else easier (i am thinking for the pistol radio titles like swA thru swF might work better.) i am thinking that if that string were moved to the language files, then i could basically create a "language" for the pistol radio ("pi.h" and "pi.cpp" perhaps) and not have to muck with the cpp files that basically contain real/actual code.
of course if there is a better way to do this, that follows your preferred design layout/coding style, i am 100% in favor of that.... just need to know what that might be
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
A basic kit called 'Fast Chip' from a company called SRA is UNDER £12 in the UK. 99.99999% as good as ChiQuick to all intents.tsenecal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:28 pmdear god... where has this been all my life... i just watched the "ChipQuik SMD removal procedure" video on youtube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0m_d52m1DU if it works half as well in real life as it does in the video, i have half a dozen "fixes" for other r/c things i want to try this on...
need to find the best/cheapest source for this "ChipQuik" desolder alloy
Not aware of what country you are from though.
Clone ChipQuick
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
updated my user profile, and thanks for the tip.RCHH wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:43 pm Not aware of what country you are from though.
Clone ChipQuick
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Quite easy to move it. I'll call it "HW_SWITCHES_STR", the same name already used when compiling for the X9D. It is conditionally compiled in the language .h files.
I've done the source code edit and it compiles, just need to test it still works OK.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
This is really amazing! Desoldering was always a mess for me, while soldering up to TQFP100 was not the problem. With this ChipQuik it looks quite easy.tsenecal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:28 pm dear god... where has this been all my life... i just watched the "ChipQuik SMD removal procedure" video on youtube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0m_d52m1DU if it works half as well in real life as it does in the video, i have half a dozen "fixes" for other r/c things i want to try this on...
need to find the best/cheapest source for this "ChipQuik" desolder alloy
Thank you for sharing, now I have to check where to buy it.
Regards
Ralf
Re: ERSKY9X Coding
It is readily available, but if not, an alternative is Woods or Rose's metal that is cheap on eBay.elral wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:51 amThis is really amazing! Desoldering was always a mess for me, while soldering up to TQFP100 was not the problem. With this ChipQuik it looks quite easy.tsenecal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:28 pm dear god... where has this been all my life... i just watched the "ChipQuik SMD removal procedure" video on youtube... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0m_d52m1DU if it works half as well in real life as it does in the video, i have half a dozen "fixes" for other r/c things i want to try this on...
need to find the best/cheapest source for this "ChipQuik" desolder alloy
Thank you for sharing, now I have to check where to buy it.
Regards
Ralf
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
Chips arrived half an hour ago. Will get one fitted to my Rev.B board when the sprouts are in bed this evening.
Very fast delivery!
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Yes, mine have arrived this morning as well. I'm just deciding where I'll put the first one. I've got a 'spare' Rev A AR9X board I could use, or I could pull a Rev B AR9X board out of a Tx, or use a RevB SKY board.
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Re: ERSKY9X Coding
I am thinking the same here. Ar9X first I reckon and try that one, as if it goes pear shaped I can get another. Sky boards are as rare as chickens teeth, and I could not do without one.
Just out of curiosity, with the chip upgrade, what are the possibilities for features with ErSky9X in the future?
Of course I know only a few will swap out MCU's, and that would make your time very costly on ErSky9X +
Just out of curiosity, with the chip upgrade, what are the possibilities for features with ErSky9X in the future?
Of course I know only a few will swap out MCU's, and that would make your time very costly on ErSky9X +
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Hi Mike,
I missed this, we may be able to upgrade our RevB SKY board chips ?
I will want to do this.
Bob B.
I missed this, we may be able to upgrade our RevB SKY board chips ?
I will want to do this.
Bob B.
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RCHH: JK is looking into the possibility of producing AR9X+ boards with this processor.
The main possibility would be to add LUA script processing, as that needs a lot of RAM (and 120K+ flash).
Bob: Yes, an upgrade to the SKY board to these should be possible. They may be upgraded to the same processor as is on the AR9X and 9XR-PRO boards anyway.
Mike.
The main possibility would be to add LUA script processing, as that needs a lot of RAM (and 120K+ flash).
Bob: Yes, an upgrade to the SKY board to these should be possible. They may be upgraded to the same processor as is on the AR9X and 9XR-PRO boards anyway.
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Ooooooo LUA script .... yes please!
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I'm not sure I would like this LUA stuff. But I don't have to use it.
I have noticed that people are trying to use scripts for stuff that the radio can easily do without them
One thing I would like to see ersky9x support is a better screen with more resolution, and I'm not talking about the Taranis display, but something bigger and better. Of course it wouldn't fit in the 9x case
João
I have noticed that people are trying to use scripts for stuff that the radio can easily do without them
One thing I would like to see ersky9x support is a better screen with more resolution, and I'm not talking about the Taranis display, but something bigger and better. Of course it wouldn't fit in the 9x case
João
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