ERSKYTx (was ersky9x) Questions
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Thanks
Les
Les
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
For those who dont want a external hole for the USB port..
Here is the USB connector bent at right angle.
A easily cut square hole in the bottom of the battery compartment allows access.
Might be able to do this with the SD card as well.
-Brent
Here is the USB connector bent at right angle.
A easily cut square hole in the bottom of the battery compartment allows access.
Might be able to do this with the SD card as well.
-Brent
- Mechcondrid
- Posts: 222
- Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:53 am
- Country: -
- Location: ledyard, connecticut, United States
- Contact:
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Hey Brent the com ports run at rs232 level or ttl? Just wondering if I'll need a level shifter for my frsky mod
-
- Posts: 121
- Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:56 am
- Country: -
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
supossing the lipo is powering the radio using the balance connector, what will happen if the big positive or the negative leads of the battery touch the usb? a short circuit can happen?
the result is not the one i was expecting in my mind, radio looks just broken in my opinion
the result is not the one i was expecting in my mind, radio looks just broken in my opinion
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
The Serial ports are true RS232C levels.
-Brent
-Brent
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
The USB jack is sitting well below the battery compartment. It is not sticking into it.
If you have open battery leads hanging around ...
-Brent
If you have open battery leads hanging around ...
-Brent
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Another Option for a N0 Drill case. Would be to replace the Charging jack (pulls right out) with
a 8 pin mini DIN connector.
It could carry the USB connections and the two serial port connections.
We would have to make up a usb to mini DIN cable...Just another option to consider.
-Brent
a 8 pin mini DIN connector.
It could carry the USB connections and the two serial port connections.
We would have to make up a usb to mini DIN cable...Just another option to consider.
-Brent
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Now, that's an elegant solution!
Ted
Ted
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Elegant solution? Check this one:
http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Wat ... 767540.htm
it's only example what we can find.
http://www.globalsources.com/gsol/I/Wat ... 767540.htm
it's only example what we can find.
- Crashj007
- Posts: 133
- Joined: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:44 pm
- Country: -
- Location: Raleigh, NC, USA
- Contact:
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
This may be a useful adapter. L-Com has many configurations and cables availableSkyNorth wrote:Another Option for a N0 Drill case. Would be to replace the Charging jack (pulls right out) with
a 8 pin mini DIN connector.
<> We would have to make up a usb to mini DIN cable...Just another option to consider.
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=10863
--
FS-TH9X 2.4GHz 9CH from Nitroplanes
Smartieparts board & backlight
Stock Flysky RF and mainboard
er9x FW V 744
FS-TH9X 2.4GHz 9CH from Nitroplanes
Smartieparts board & backlight
Stock Flysky RF and mainboard
er9x FW V 744
-
- Posts: 121
- Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:56 am
- Country: -
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
if it fits, then the 8 pin mini DIN looks a much better solution and clean,
i would vote for a 10 pin mini DIN however,
why? this way FPV goggles can have the power source from the radio using one of them, and the other one can be used for trainer signal, for HeadTracking
Foxtech FPV googles uses 1 single cable with futaba radios to get power source and send HeadTracking singnals,
with 9x its needed a split cable for it, but with this connector we could kill several birds with one shoot,
i would vote for a 10 pin mini DIN however,
why? this way FPV goggles can have the power source from the radio using one of them, and the other one can be used for trainer signal, for HeadTracking
Foxtech FPV googles uses 1 single cable with futaba radios to get power source and send HeadTracking singnals,
with 9x its needed a split cable for it, but with this connector we could kill several birds with one shoot,
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
The Square socket on the radio is 0.50 " across and the diameter of the 8 pin Mini din is . 0.550"
so it looks like a good fit - a small flat filed into each side should keep it in place.
This part does not come in 10 pin version. But maybe another MFG. makes one.
The second serial port is unused , so you could use the 2 pins from it for other things as well.
Another access point to consider is the 72 Mhz antenna hole.
The Metal shell insert from a inline mini din connector
fits right into the antenna hole. a Little hot glue holds it in place.
-Brent
so it looks like a good fit - a small flat filed into each side should keep it in place.
This part does not come in 10 pin version. But maybe another MFG. makes one.
The second serial port is unused , so you could use the 2 pins from it for other things as well.
Another access point to consider is the 72 Mhz antenna hole.
The Metal shell insert from a inline mini din connector
fits right into the antenna hole. a Little hot glue holds it in place.
-Brent
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
It's looking great, but just a few questions.
1. If I'm using the FrSky telemetry, can I connect it directly to COM1 without the RS232 level converter?
2. Where do you source the new lcd module? Is this the one:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OPTREX-F-513 ... 412wt_1154
3. Is the issue with the trainer port fixed with this, or do we still need to add a resistor?
4. Can I charge a battery in the controller when using this?
5. Is there a stable firmware release for this yet?
Keep up the fantastic work on this. It seems that this is a real opportunity to stick it to the manufacturers of the stupidly expensive controllers out there.
1. If I'm using the FrSky telemetry, can I connect it directly to COM1 without the RS232 level converter?
2. Where do you source the new lcd module? Is this the one:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/OPTREX-F-513 ... 412wt_1154
3. Is the issue with the trainer port fixed with this, or do we still need to add a resistor?
4. Can I charge a battery in the controller when using this?
5. Is there a stable firmware release for this yet?
Keep up the fantastic work on this. It seems that this is a real opportunity to stick it to the manufacturers of the stupidly expensive controllers out there.
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
1, Yes, you can connect directly to the serial port.
2, Digkey sells the module , The one you list is 5V not 3.3V
3, Trainer port is ready to go.
4, The charge jack is directly connected to the Battery.
5, There is a basic version of the software working... Mike has done some awesome work on it.
-Brent
2, Digkey sells the module , The one you list is 5V not 3.3V
3, Trainer port is ready to go.
4, The charge jack is directly connected to the Battery.
5, There is a basic version of the software working... Mike has done some awesome work on it.
-Brent
- MikeB
- 9x Developer
- Posts: 17993
- Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:24 pm
- Country: -
- Location: Poole, Dorset, UK
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
1. Yes, the RS232 level converter is built in on the board.
2. I'll leave that for SkyNorth to answer.
3. The trainer port is fully fixed, nothing to add.
4. Yes you should be able to charge the battery in place.
5. Not yet, some of the firmware is still set up to test the hardware, rather than provide functionality. There is still quite a bit to do to get to a first stable version. To get it going, I wrote an emulation of the EEPROM in er9x, this needs to be changed to allow 4k of EEPROM per model, a major change. The FrSky telemetry is not yet implemented either and the audio system is absolutely minimum. Having said that much is working, and I have used it for 3 indoor flying sessions without any radio problems, although getting a model T-boned wasn't part of the plan!
SkyNorth is reporting the first REVB board appears to be working OK. We have had to do firmware changes from the prototype boards as quite a few pins needed to change functions. There are also some new hardware items that have needed new firmware to test them. I'm the only one who has implemented any formware for it so far, but I expect others who work on er9x to join in soon.
(and Brent did get in with a reply first!)
Mike.
2. I'll leave that for SkyNorth to answer.
3. The trainer port is fully fixed, nothing to add.
4. Yes you should be able to charge the battery in place.
5. Not yet, some of the firmware is still set up to test the hardware, rather than provide functionality. There is still quite a bit to do to get to a first stable version. To get it going, I wrote an emulation of the EEPROM in er9x, this needs to be changed to allow 4k of EEPROM per model, a major change. The FrSky telemetry is not yet implemented either and the audio system is absolutely minimum. Having said that much is working, and I have used it for 3 indoor flying sessions without any radio problems, although getting a model T-boned wasn't part of the plan!
SkyNorth is reporting the first REVB board appears to be working OK. We have had to do firmware changes from the prototype boards as quite a few pins needed to change functions. There are also some new hardware items that have needed new firmware to test them. I'm the only one who has implemented any formware for it so far, but I expect others who work on er9x to join in soon.
(and Brent did get in with a reply first!)
Mike.
erskyTx/er9x developer
The difficult we do immediately,
The impossible takes a little longer!
The difficult we do immediately,
The impossible takes a little longer!
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Well, as Mike has reported .. IT WORKS!..thanks in part, to his hard work.
The board with the LED backlight on low and No RF Module draws about 62mA. or so says the on board current sensor
I have hand soldered two boards for testing all is looking good....
The gold plating makes for easier soldering...still about 8 hours of work each
There are 220 parts !
The protos are due to be soldered week of March 4.
-Brent
The board with the LED backlight on low and No RF Module draws about 62mA. or so says the on board current sensor
I have hand soldered two boards for testing all is looking good....
The gold plating makes for easier soldering...still about 8 hours of work each
There are 220 parts !
The protos are due to be soldered week of March 4.
-Brent
-
- Posts: 236
- Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:19 pm
- Country: -
- Location: Don Mills, Ontario
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Will the trainer port work with an open collector source like JR transmitters have?
Took a quick look at the schematic, and not sure that it will. Looks like the circuit is intended to clip a 5 volt input to 3.3 volts.
Thanks,
Pat MacKenzie
Took a quick look at the schematic, and not sure that it will. Looks like the circuit is intended to clip a 5 volt input to 3.3 volts.
Thanks,
Pat MacKenzie
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
If its a true Open Collector , its pulling to ground , there would not be 5 Volts on it.
The internal pullup on the port pin pulls the pin to 3.3V , and the open collector JR drive would pull it to ground.
If you feed a 5V signal into a 3.3V input , the internal diode will conduct. The external diode was for added input protection.
Do you have a schematic of the JR output?
-Brent
The internal pullup on the port pin pulls the pin to 3.3V , and the open collector JR drive would pull it to ground.
If you feed a 5V signal into a 3.3V input , the internal diode will conduct. The external diode was for added input protection.
Do you have a schematic of the JR output?
-Brent
- MikeB
- 9x Developer
- Posts: 17993
- Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:24 pm
- Country: -
- Location: Poole, Dorset, UK
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
I'm not quite sure about the 62mA, unless Brent has done some calculations to get it. I'm just dumping out the A2D value in hex. We had to change a few resistor values to get this to work properly, I'm not actually sure what value of shunt resistor we ended up with.
The trainer port is quite flexible. We have both a processor pin for output PPM drive and a transistor sense to handle low level inputs. The processor pin can also double up as a pull-up resistor. The trainer port PPM output is completely separate from the PPM (or PXX or DSM) that goes to the rf module.
Mike.
The trainer port is quite flexible. We have both a processor pin for output PPM drive and a transistor sense to handle low level inputs. The processor pin can also double up as a pull-up resistor. The trainer port PPM output is completely separate from the PPM (or PXX or DSM) that goes to the rf module.
Mike.
erskyTx/er9x developer
The difficult we do immediately,
The impossible takes a little longer!
The difficult we do immediately,
The impossible takes a little longer!
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Hi all.
Can you buy just the PCB?
I like to try or be a beta tester.
Thank you.
Can you buy just the PCB?
I like to try or be a beta tester.
Thank you.
- cre8tiveleo
- Posts: 1434
- Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:13 pm
- Country: -
- Location: Ontario,(GTA North)
- Contact:
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
How do you think the ersky board would be like in this tx case?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1231017
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1231017
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
The boards come in frames of 5.
The frames allow 5 boards at a time to have the solder paste screened on, and then built up by the pick and place machines.
If I end up with any single boards that cant be built , I might sell those off..
I do not want to break up the frames to sell a single bare board.
-Brent
The frames allow 5 boards at a time to have the solder paste screened on, and then built up by the pick and place machines.
If I end up with any single boards that cant be built , I might sell those off..
I do not want to break up the frames to sell a single bare board.
-Brent
- Mechcondrid
- Posts: 222
- Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:53 am
- Country: -
- Location: ledyard, connecticut, United States
- Contact:
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
any updates, issues, or anything?
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
I hope that the boards, will be built up this week..
I will have to put some of the parts on by hand after the SMT parts are soldered.
I then have to program and test each board.
So if all goes well , I can start shipping out proto boards in the next week or so.
-Brent
I will have to put some of the parts on by hand after the SMT parts are soldered.
I then have to program and test each board.
So if all goes well , I can start shipping out proto boards in the next week or so.
-Brent
-
- Posts: 2
- Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:31 pm
- Country: -
- Location: Netherlands
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
Hi,
If there's a pre-order list, could you add me please. I'm new here so I can't send a PM.
Thanks.
If there's a pre-order list, could you add me please. I'm new here so I can't send a PM.
Thanks.
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
GREAT.
Looking forward for delivery...
Best regards , Hasse.
Looking forward for delivery...
Best regards , Hasse.
To support the forum:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=82QKZZN5ZC8JE
To support ER9X:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=YHX43JR3J7XGW
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=82QKZZN5ZC8JE
To support ER9X:
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=YHX43JR3J7XGW
- Mechcondrid
- Posts: 222
- Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:53 am
- Country: -
- Location: ledyard, connecticut, United States
- Contact:
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
ok cool thanks for the info brent
... just had a thought you gonna pm everyone for their addys right? despite being one of the greatest hobbies and hobby communities on earth i'm still wary of posting my full address on any site
dem spiderbots is everywheres
... just had a thought you gonna pm everyone for their addys right? despite being one of the greatest hobbies and hobby communities on earth i'm still wary of posting my full address on any site
dem spiderbots is everywheres
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
You can send your address to my email address...and I will send you a Paypal Invoice...
-Brent
-Brent
-
- Posts: 121
- Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:56 am
- Country: -
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
why not add too an EL driver to the board? i am not sure but i think will be cheaper illuminate the board with an EL panel than with leds,
an EL panel can be dimmable variating the voltage?
an EL panel can be dimmable variating the voltage?
Re: ERSKY9x Questions
LEDs are actually more flexible for dimming, simpler electronics (no high voltage converter) and cheaper...