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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by argo » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:46 am

Hi all hoping to tap into your collective experience for help.

Have finished wiring up my audio mod, updating to ER9X-772...but get no audio out :? I have programed the radio to PiSpkrVoice and programmed one voice safety switch to the AIL TX switch for testing.

Here is what I observe:
  • Backlight switching via new interface cct works fine.
  • If I turn the radio on and put my ear on the speaker I can just hear a burst of tones (not voice), pause, and then another burst of tone. This as the TX goes through Splashscreen then to Model display.
  • If I activate my AIL switch I hear one burst of tone, putting switch back again gives another burst (I programmed "BOTH" option on safety switch).
  • If I do all this with the SDcard out I hear nothing at all.
Seems to me the logic of TX, Interface & Audio-Module is working fine. However the audio part of the audio-module is dead. What are your thoughts guys? Anyone seen this before?

Many thanks, Argo.


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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by janekx » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:51 am

Got same problem and in all measurement looks like dead audio module, my live about 20sec and then died

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by argo » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:55 am

Hmm darn! Has your new one arrived?

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:00 am

Hmmm, what voice files are you using? what about the general setting menu? have a look here..

http://openrcforums.com/wiki/index.php/ ... io_on_er9x

I'm not saying that this is the problem.. Just checking..

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by janekx » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:03 am

In a few days will have here new is in my country now, but I make for sure new PCB again


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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by janekx » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:04 am

jhsa wrote:Hmmm, what voice files are you using? what about the general setting menu? have a look here..

http://openrcforums.com/wiki/index.php/ ... io_on_er9x

I'm not saying that this is the problem.. Just checking..

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This looks like burned end amplifer or so, that is not by setting. My works and after a few speeks died

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:43 am

Mike, I've read your discussion on the other thread about speaking values with 2 decimal numbers , for example 3.84..
In this case I think we will need some files for when the decimals are .00, .01, .02, .03, etc till .09
What do you think? if so we could use the file number from 0006 to 0015 for example.

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:27 pm

Mike, there's a problem with er9x_frsky_772..
Flashed this latest version and everytime I turn the radio on the volume is very low.. then, if I go to the main settings menu and set the volume to 6 and back to seven again, the volume changes to full as it should.. if I turn the radio off and on again, I have to repeat the procedure..

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by bill516 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:01 pm

Must be a Fortugese thing I have just, and I mean just flashed with r772 and my files play at the same volume I had with r 769 , (keep my finger on the pulse and eye on the ball), thought I havnt used the new number system yet my SD card has the old number files, that's tonight's job.

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:07 pm

Bill, welcome back, we all missed you here.. Actually spoke about you last night..

So, I don't understand what's happening with mine then.. will flash it again and also the eeprom that I saved to a bin file before I flashed the radio..

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 2:32 pm

Ok, flashed my eeprom again, Had the same problem..
reflashed 772, the same problem
flashed 768, no problem at all, it worked
flashed 771, no problem, it worked
flashed 772, have the volume problem again..
So, obviously something changed from 771 to 772 as far as the volume is concerned.. it's not my hardware or eeprom because everything works with earlier versions of the fw..

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by MikeB » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:03 pm

I think these voice modules behave slightly differently. You are losing a volume setting instead of, say, the 'welcome' message. I'll change things again.

While the volume is low, do you always get the 'welcome' message?

Currently (r772) I send:
Set volume to 2
Set volume to 2
Set volume to required setting
speak 'welcome' message.

I was hoping if anything got lost it would be one of the first 2 items. I'll change to setting the volume to the required setting 3 times, takes slightly more flash which is why I did what we currently have. (I think I'm paranoid over using up flash!)

Thinking about decimals, what we probably want is:
POINT ZERO
POINT ONE . . .
POINT NINE.

as ten extra voice files. Then single decimal places work better on the stock board, and if you want 2 decimal places then it won't be too bad. Only cell voltage needs 2 decimals so far.

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by bill516 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:18 pm

Awww thats nice you all missed me, is that missed me like a dose of dysentery. I have been here I've been lurking, I'm into the new sound order now I have flashed and I was just looking over the list of the latest sound text file you posted. It has the list numbers 0400 to 0499 for numbers 0 to 99, is that in addition to the numbers 0 to 5 as 0000 to 0005 can we ditch them from the 0400 to 0499 block, or even does it make a difference.

BTW forgot to put in first time, how do I find out what version I am flashing/d/loading before I flash and read it from the Tx.
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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:22 pm

Yes, I'm getting the welcome message.. thanks Mike

Do you want me to make files saying POINT ZERO to POINT NINE? Instead of using a single file with POINT?
so for X.10 it wil say X POINT ONE ZERO??

Just trying to understand it.. sorry but my brain is still inside my computer UPS that I've just repaired.. :lol:


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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:33 pm

Bill as far as I understand you can't ditch them.. they are still used.. Check my sound list, there are all the files needed. You can erase 0006 to 0020.

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EDIT: You can also delete the files, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90..
Actually I have 2 new files on 70 and 71.. RSSI Alert and TSSI Alert.
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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by ReSt » Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:58 pm

0000 to 0005 are used for the count down timers

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:03 pm

I think he asked if he could delete 0400 to 0405, but he can't.. ;) Not allowed :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by MikeB » Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:19 pm

jhsa wrote:Do you want me to make files saying POINT ZERO to POINT NINE? Instead of using a single file with POINT?
Yes, so 3.84 volts is:
'THREE' 'POINT EIGHT' 'FOUR' 'VOLTS'
I would be quite happy with:
0006 'Point Zero'
0007 'Point One'
. . .
0015 'Point Nine'

for the file number allocation.

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:46 pm

Will do it as soon as i get home. Kaos, don't start please. :D
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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:24 am

Voice package updated with the files Mike asked for above.. Go get'em. :lol:

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by janekx » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:07 am

Today will got new voice module from emartee.
I am afraid to not burn it again.
Any advice what check before use?

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by argo » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:39 am

I would suggest the usual things before connecting:
  • Supply voltage around 3.3
  • Supply voltage correct polarity
  • Speaker not shorted
  • Clock and data lines around 3.3V or 0V
All these things can be measured with your TX powered up without module connected.

Best of luck :)

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by janekx » Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:46 am

All looks good 3,31V at power, 8ohm speaker, data 0V or 2,7V at some combination so safe

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:03 pm

Mike, I'm just chating to a friend and he came up with a nice idea.. to be able to set the volume with a pot, or even a switch (mute function).
I was just saying that I want to go to fly today but would have to set the volume everytime I turn the radio on due to that little bug.. He asked me why don't you revert to an earlier version? I said because I would have to open the radio and change the voice files again. Don't really want to open the radio too many times because it wears the plastic.. Then he asked, aren't you able to set the volume with a pot or a switch?? I thought, what a nice idea.. what do you think??

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by Rob Thomson » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:04 pm

Lol.. already in open9x :-)
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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by jhsa » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:13 pm

oh really?? hhmmm maybe my friend uses open9x and he didn't tell me :D :D :D
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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by Rob Thomson » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:22 pm

Surprisingly yes! I dont use the feature myself - but the idea is that you can assign a custom function that does a volume control on a per model basis.

Quite sure mike could grab/use some of the code :-)

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by PNaz » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:42 pm

I would like to see a volume control on a pot for ersky as well. I normally have my volume at 12 but would like to increase it when those noisy nitro types start flying beside me.

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by MikeB » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:26 pm

Rob, is that on the stock board as well as the ARM board?

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Re: Audio (voice) - Stock 9X PCB

Post by bill516 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:31 pm

Just got an email from this company who I have used before and they now have this item for sale,
http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/component ... d-breakout had a quick read of it and it has confused me. Does this one item do all the functions MP3 two wire serial etc or is it as we have had to do and specify which mode you need. Or more importantly is there something in there that will allow us to convert the boards that were ordered in haste.


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