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Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by Romolo » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:05 am

Hi, the Italian Air Traffic Control Body (ENAC) is in this days proposing a draft norm for regulating RC Model flights. They are asking comments (the proposed one is extremely restrictive), and for this reason I'm trying to collect any European country law/rule about rc modelling.
I actually was able to find english one, but I'm missing others.
Any information is welcome...
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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by Rob Thomson » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:12 am

Best UK source of info would be: www.bmfa.org.uk

Do you have details on what is being proposed?
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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by Romolo » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:25 am

For england I have fount this: http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP658.PDF

In Italy they are proposing outside of restricted areas the limit of 50m/ground VLOS for models below 20Kg..
While VLOS is obvious, 50m/gnd is really low...
I see in england you have 400ft/gnd (so about 120m)

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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by Rob Thomson » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:28 am

Curious that there is a well known glider competition class that has a 200m launch height?

But seriously.. 50m is really low! It would prevent the majority of models being able to fly effectively! My ParkJet can cover 50m in a matter of seconds!
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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by ReSt » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:10 pm

In Germany, principally models are allowed to fly up to 762m height, if you are not in a controlled flight zone and if no local rule says something different (e.g. you have a flying field that has been approved by the community with the limit of let's say 300m maximum altitude, then this has to be obeyed).

Near controlled zones (airports) there are two lower limits, 518 m and 304 m

If you are flying in a controlled zone, you have to get clearance before entering a higher, controlled level.

That's in short term what I found some time ago and was distributed from a lawyer of the "Modellflugverband" (don't take me by the letter for this last statement, but it was somebody whom I would believe that his statement was correct).

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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by Kilrah » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:28 pm

Switzerland is not part of the EU, but:

Models between 0.5 and 30kg cannot be flown:
- Closer than 5km from a full-scale airport unless agreed with the ATC services or airport personnel
- Higher than 150m AGL within full-scale CTRs

And that's pretty much it. An insurance is required to fly models >0.5kg.
FPV and fully autonomous flight are allowed as long as someone maintains direct visual contact of the aircraft and can regain control at all times.

So you can fly 1000m AGL if you want to if you're outside of a CTR and can see your model. Pretty common for some pilots I know who do glider towing with large models.

Above 30kg you need to pass an inspection from the civil aviation authority who will check you built your model decently and you can fly it safely.

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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by jhsa » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:04 pm

as far as I know here in Germany real aviation must fly above 2000 ft, except for landing/departing..
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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by ShowMaster » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:57 pm

Not closer than 5 mi from an airport or over 400 ft (120m) in flight path seems to be the rule in the USA and I see its common in other countries.
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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by Wimh » Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:18 pm

120m max in Belgium, 200 m for contests...
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Re: Request of infos about RC regulations (EU only)

Post by ccfuchs » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:56 pm

Situation in germany:
RC models are air vehicules independent of their size and weight. That sounds trivial on the first view, but has a large impact on the owner:
- Insurance is reqired if you use the airspace (fly outside)
- only VFR
- Flight restrictions are marked in the ICAO Cards. Models are allowed to use the "free" airspace G (up to 2500ft Gnd), theoretical E aswell
- The use in restricted/controlled airspaces is not allowed (theoretically you could ask the flight control for clearance, but the chanaces are quite low. IFR airspaces (C, A,B) is off couse prohibited
- Flying in NFZ is prohibites
- Violating these rules leads to fines according to the aronautic law (LuftVG) which are potentially quite high (5000€ if you are not insured, several 10000€ using the NFZ)

The main problem is that most People they by a small RTF Model (even PiccoZ) have no idea about this law. Fortunately the normal Police and the regulation agecy (Ordnungsamt) neither,...

Special rules for RC models:
- 2km distance to living areas if you use nitro/turbine or gas power
- no restriction for electric models
- Allowance reqiuered for Models over 5kg (Aufstiegserlaubnis).
- Models over 25 kg: Licence and technical approval (LBA) reqired


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