PPM sum on HK-TR6A V2

[Hasse.69]

Is there any way of telling if the reciever is capable of ppm sum.
I don´t think my rx got it , but i´m not sure and i don´t have a scope.......

Best regards Hasse.

[kaos]

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbycity/foru ... ?TID=32465
if that is from 2010, it probably have it at batt ch. I have 2 of those TR6A and they do have the PPM at batt ch. made a wireless rx for my stock T9x to use with sim.

just checked my board printed exactly like that:
FS-R6A V16
10/06/17

some where here, some Portugee says you can connect to a spker to hear the ppm signal. if I remember correctly.

[cre8tiveleo]

I said that.


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[kaos]

told you my short term memory is not good.

[Hasse.69]

So Adrian is from Portugal , well what do you know.

[Hasse.69]

So if someone got a verified non ppm sum rx.
Please crack it open to reveal the difference.
My rx should have ppm sum , i just can´t get it to work......

[jhsa]

So Adrian is from Portugal , well what do you know.

What?? MUaahhhh haaa haaa..
I didn't know that

[cre8tiveleo]

On the interwebz , we are all from everywhere.


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[kaos]

no,
Adrian is the one sweeping maple leaves,
the one can't remember when he got out of the bar is the Portugee.
I was the one can't remember who said what.

[Hasse.69]

And the subject was ppm sum right...........
This is the whackiest forum i know.
Keep it up!!!

[MostlyHarmless]

So you are saying the subject is misleading and does not represent the thread content?

[Hasse.69]

Hmmm , yea sort of....

[jhsa]

Oh well, where were we?

[Hasse.69]

I have lost it completely.
Maybe i should start a new thread on PPM sum.??????

[kaos]

Oh well, where were we?

how to make spker talk with ppm.

[Kaji]

I have exactly same looking receiver with identical markings as seen in first post bought few weeks back and I have verified that it doesn't give any CPPM on battery port. Receivers bought last year and earlier does have CPPM on battery port.

Looks like only difference is software that has CPPM disabled.

Edit: looks like there is difference in text. Receiver that I got does have letters ZLH under date. Don't know does it mean anything.

Is there any way of telling if the reciever is capable of ppm sum.
I don´t think my rx got it , but i´m not sure and i don´t have a scope.......

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Best regards Hasse.

[kaos]

hmm, it does have one extra print line : ZLH than mine or Hasse's and mine has the ppm.

Hasse: you just need to find a way so your ppm will talk to the spker.

[Hasse.69]

Yes.
I´m on it , tomorrow!!!!
Tonite we are going to eat some crayfishes and drink some BEER.
Any Fortugees responding?????
I think the Hobbyking KK2 board with Open Aero2 Beta3 will tell me if i got ppm signal.
(If you dont know what crayfish are ask me for a picture. )
Till tomorrow.....

[kaos]

only know what crawfish is (which is not a fish), no clue what crayfish is. Made of crayon?

[jhsa]

I don't know what it is but it sounds delicious.. and the beer too..

Have a good time

[Crucial]

All depends on what part of the country you are in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfish

The name "crayfish" comes from the Old French word escrevisse (Modern French écrevisse).[4] The word has been modified to "crayfish" by association with "fish" (folk etymology).[4] The largely American variant "crawfish" is similarly derived.[4]
Some kinds of crayfish are known locally as lobsters, crawdads,[5] mudbugs,[5] and yabbies. In the Eastern United States, "crayfish" is more common in the north, while "crawdad" is heard more in central and southwestern regions, and "crawfish" further south, although there are considerable overlaps.[6]

[kaos]

haha, crawfish with beer, yummy, but has to be Cajun flavor (spicy) though.

[kaos]

Hasse: looks like I found a cheap ppm oscilloscope for you: http://www.zelscope.com/

[jhsa]

This one is even better.. it's free.. that's what I use

http://www.zeitnitz.de/Christian/scope_en

João

[kaos]

installed.

[jhsa]

on mine I've made a 10x divider.. don't want to burn the soundcard

[Hasse.69]

I have been looking at this one , maybe it´s sufficient.
Dpscope
And i can confirm that my 6ch has ppm-out.
But i can´t get it to play with the OpenAero modified Hobbyking KK2.0
I have a TWIN
It is set up with differential throttle instead of rudder and i have flapperons to.
It works flawlessly without the KK2.0 board in PWM mode (rx only)
When i set up the board i can not get any outputs ,to the servos.

In the r/c inputs menu in OpenAero i get:
Throttle stick= Elevator+Gear
Rudder stick= Elevator+Gear
Aileron stick=Throttle+Rudder
Elevator stick= Aileron
I WILL most certainly double post this in OpenAero thread.
Best regards , Hasse.

[Hasse.69]

And the answer from the Guru himself.
I really admire the work he has put in to it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasse.69
Maybe i ´m asking to much and understand to little......Naaah
I have a Turnigy 9X with ER9X software.
I can confirm that my http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s... ... V2.htmlhas ppm-out.
Are you sure? According to the latest discussions on HK...
"7/29/2012
BradleyK (69)
the new version of these don't have PPM on the bat pin anymore, so don't buy if trying to get a ppm output."

Quote:
But i can´t get it to play with the OpenAero modified Hobbyking KK2.0
I have a TWIN
It is set up with differential throttle instead of rudder and i have flapperons to.
It works flawlessly without the KK2.0 board in PWM mode (rx only)
When i set up the board i can not get any outputs ,to the servos.
Have you powered M2 to M8 separately with another source of 5V?

Quote:
In the r/c inputs menu in OpenAero i get:
Throttle stick= Elevator+Gear
Rudder stick= Elevator+Gear
Aileron stick=Throttle+Rudder
Elevator stick= Aileron
Oh I see... You've forgotten the bit in the manual that warns about different channel orders for CPPM.
Your throttle is set up to come out of two outputs, right?
Then your rudder is set to mix into both of those.
So the above makes perfect sense - your channel order is all wrong

In "JR/Spkr." the channel orders are TAER, in "Futaba" it is "AETR".
You've set it up perhaps with the default JR order, but... Your radio has a different order. It looks like the Futaba order.
So...
Throttle = Elevator + Gear = ch3 + ch5 (ch3 is Futaba throttle, 5 the second motor?)
Rudder = Elevator+Gear = ch3 + ch5 (Same as above - mixed into both motors so correct)
Aileron = Throttle+Rudder = ch1 (Futaba aileron) and the second aileron/flaperon on ch4.
Elevator stick = Aileron (Futaba elevator - perfect!)

PROBLEM: You've forgotten to change channel order.
SOLUTION: Try Futaba channel order.

Note: DO NOT PUT THE MOTOR CHANNELS THROUGH THE KK2 BOARD!
This is extremely dangerous as the yaw gyro will be able to control your throttle.
Please do not use OpenAero for this.

Why do you want to use CPPM anyway?
You have two throttle channels that should go directly from your receiver to the motor ESCs. You clearly must have some TX mixing involved there that you don't want OpenAero playing with.
The remainder is aileron (flaperons) and elevator, all of which you can do with PWM.

Easy!

[TrueBuild]

This one is even better.. it's free.. that's what I use

http://www.zeitnitz.de/Christian/scope_en

João

Hi,
I have just installed this on my PC to check the output of my buddy/DSC jack socket on the Taranis.
I have set the TX as slave and turned off RF as recommended.

I do not know how to use all the dials and switches on the Zeitnitz scope

Using a mike input for TX to simulator
The above link shows a bar chart type output.

Can you give me some hints as to what to adjust to get a clear PPM trace so I can test if the stick movement is shown?
Or suggest some links?

Thanks.

[jhsa]

WARNING

Don't connect the PPM signal directly to your sound card input or you could burn it. The max voltage the card can accept at the input is around 1V. some not even.. PPM signals sometimes are bigger than 5V and in some cases even as high as the tx battery voltage..

You need a voltage divider. something llke 10K and 1K should work.
When you have this bit sorted we can talk about using the scope

I had this installed on my old PC but then I got a real scope and never used it.. will install it again on this PC and will try to help you.. But please make the probe.. I can't find the schematic I used to make mine. but will measure my probe in a while and post it here..

João