V1 TX to V2 TX conversion, is it possible?

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I have a V1 TX and finding the V1 RX is hard. HK has the 6CH in stock sometimes but no 9CH. Is it possible to upgrade a V1 TX to work with V2 RX?

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You can replace the module in the back with a V2 version. It's plug and play.

Otherwise I have a bunch of V1 receivers left over that I am not using anymore. I even have some new that were never used. If you are interested in buying them let me know and we can work it out over PM.
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Wow it's that easy. I'm surprised but I guess I shouldn't be. I have what I need right now but if I start a new build I'll ping you.
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PM sent.......
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Oh and in case anyone else has V1 receivers for sole, post them here. If I don't need them, maybe someone else will.

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People talk of V1 .... V2 .... but in fact there is no such thing. The 9x before 2010 was often sent out with a pin wrongly wired and that intereferes with addon boards - er9x boys will answer that one better. Near end of 2010 FlySky flipped their soldering to correct that little error and the illusion of V2 was born. The board is exactly same apart from that little solder change. Don't believe me ? Check the ID / serial number on the boards of so-called V1 and V2 radios ...... same.
As another had said - the real change is in the RF Module from TM0001 to TM0002 - which changes from a limited freq change system to a full band width freq hopping system. So the answer is - change module to TM0002 - but then you need also change Rx's to B version.

One other reason for this mis-used V2 name is Turnigy who say they have V3 etc. As far as I've determined from data and the Yahoo group - Turnigy were flashing MAYBE with later Flysky firmware which is used by all since 2010 and also flipped that solder pin .. they just haven't stopped quoting it !
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I have to disagree with most of what you posted. Hobby King lists the radios and receivers with a V1 and V2 designation which corresponds to the version of the RF system used. The different revisions of the motherboards were dubbed V1 and V2 by the masses on the forums. A more proper term would have been to use the word revision and would have caused a lot less confusion. The change in the motherboard was not a soldering mistake that was corrected. It was a change in position of a solder pad. It was moved to a track/pin adjacent to the old position. There was nothing soldered to this pad. There were no functional differences between the boards even though there was a physical difference.

V1 receiver

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... %5FV1.html

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http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... %5FV2.html
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Crucial - what terms we juse to describe the change on the SAME motherboard is acedemic ... the fact remains that there is no V1 / V2 motherboards - they are both the same with that small change ... revision ... call it what you like. The old in fact works fine and is only of concern when wanting to add to the board ... when a little modification is then called for. Quoting Hobby King is even worse as they have for long time added to the confusion by their claims of a different version to all others .. My FS source has shown that there is no such beast and it's purely based on their having implemented the changes before others.

Disagree or not ... the only actual difference at the end of the day is the use of TM0001 and TM0002 module and their freq hopping / interference rejection. Rx's are as we all know dependent on which Tx module you use ... so not really part of this debate.

As most of us know - the best source about this "revision" is the 'Smartieparts' brigade ....

http://www.smartieparts.com/shop/index. ... =page&id=8
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My "quote" of hobby king was showing what they call the V1 and V2 RF versions which is what the original poster asked about. I said nothing about Hobby Kings description of their V2 software version of the radio.

I'm not sure why you brought up the motherboard revisions in your first post and my post was trying to correct the misinformation in your description of what was changed between them.
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based on the OP thought that V1 was different enough to consider that V2 was significantly different which in fact it is not. It's down to the RF module.

Apologies for my mis-typing of Smartiexxxx to others ........ podgy fat fingers

To be honest - I posted - you don't agree .. shall we leave it at that ?
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@latrc, did you read the original op's post?

He was looking for v1 rx's or a way to change his v1 tx to a v2 tx to take advantage of v2 rx's now available.

No where was there mention of the pcb trace. He has a v1 tx and wants v1 rx's to match.

Smartieparts board is over priced for what it does, a simple $5 usb programmer, and a backlight. Which may or may not work in you have the unfortunate luck of getting an early rev board.

Nice rant, it's been said so many times, and really doesn't need to be said again here.

Chill.


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Okay you chilled, thanks.


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The OP is asking about the differences in the RF versions of the radio. There is a significant difference between the 2 as they are not compatible. He has a V1 RF module and wanted to know if he could convert the radio to the V2 frequency hopping RF version.

I don't see where there is anything to agree to disagree on. You stated incorrect information and I am trying to correct that so others don't read it and become even more confused. I own radios that have both revisions of the motherboard and have soldered programmers into both of them. I also am fully aware of the "custom" Turnigy software in the radio as I have used both versions and their "custom" software is indeed slightly different from the Flysky branded radios software.

You said
"The 9x before 2010 was often sent out with a pin wrongly wired and that intereferes with addon boards - er9x boys will answer that one better. Near end of 2010 FlySky flipped their soldering to correct that little error and the illusion of V2 was born. The board is exactly same apart from that little solder change."

This is incorrect. There wasn't a wrongly wired pin in the original radios. There was no flipping of any soldering to correct an error. The 2 different motherboards are not exactly the same. There is a small pad that was moved from one trace on the board to another. It is in a completely different position from one board revision to the other. This change had no effect on the function of the radios, it didn't correct anything and is completely invisible to the end user.

Again, the OP never asked about this change and doesn't care about the revision of his motherboard. He asked about the versions of the RF systems and whether or not his radio can be converted from using the V1 RF system/module to a V2 RF system/module.
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cre8tiveleo wrote:Okay you chilled, thanks.
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Chilled, chilling, cold.

Summer is coming and with it cold beer. Ahhhh :)

I think that my brain has started translating conversations to "beer, beer beer beer. Cold beer beer beer. Beer that is cold..." and so on.
My wife gets really upset when she talks to me and I get that glazed "cold beer" look in my eyes.

Just my 2 pints.
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I'm sure I get that look when my wife asks me to look at her work. She's a wedding photographer and I have seen more wedding pictures to last a few lifetimes. They all look the same and I just nod and say yes that looks great honey.
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My wife and I love our beer, so we both get tge glazed beer thoughts, its all good.

Mmmm... Beer


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You may want to view this instructive video:
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Good song.. Now he just needs a er9x decal on his guitar :mrgreen:

and probably a beer :)
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I think I started a "beer wave". Cool!
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mmmm beer.
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who want's beer when there's VODKA ???
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The original manufacturer Flysky calls the rx revisions "A" and"B". FS-TH9X-A is the one with no frequency hopping and the rx's with satellite. Transmitter module is the TM-001

FS-TH9X-B is the freguency hopping version with the TM-002 module. http://www.rcmodelpart.com/flysky-fsth9 ... ?cPath=1_2 The Receivers also have "B" in their model number. For example FS-R8B which is the 8-channel version.

The motherboard pin change is a running change made some point but the motherboard revision printed on the lower righ corner is the same regardless the configuration.

The V1 and V2 is purely Hobbyking thing and means what it means. They claim it is the "V2" firmware but is it anything else than the Turnigy logo on main screen. They also call their "A" and "B" receivers V1 and V2
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jhsa wrote:Good song.. Now he just needs a er9x decal on his guitar :mrgreen:
and probably a beer :)
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I would put one on mine but I don't have decals..
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I make them, buy them, they are cheap.

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