openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

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openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by nougiw » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:21 am

Hi! I have just received my 9XR and I'm thinking on upgrading to one of the two. Let the experts give us some pros and cons to see if we can prove one of the two being better than the other. Let me start with a simple question: which one is closer to the stock FW of 9XR?


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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by jhsa » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:34 am

There is not such thing as the stock FW of the 9XR..
The 9XR comes with er9x.. A very old version though
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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by nougiw » Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:43 am

yes, that's what I meant actually, which one is made after...thank you

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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by jhsa » Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:03 am

you could try both firmwares and see which one is better for you.. I use both :D
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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by nougiw » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:01 am

Yes this could be a possible solution but I actually intend this to become something like a mini guide for anyone new to the hobby, who'd like to obtain a small idea of what each firmware is capable of and what not, similarities and differences, pros and cons. That's why I expect from you, the older and more experienced users, to start writing your personal opinion, your likes and dislikes. Especially the ones that are familiar with both firmwares and are able to do direct comparisons... ;P


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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by Rob Thomson » Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:12 am

There is no true way to say which is best.
They are similar... But different.

Different flavours. Each user finds they prefer a different firmware.

So all end user choice.

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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by Kilrah » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:48 am

nougiw wrote:I actually intend this to become something like a mini guide for anyone new to the hobby, who'd like to obtain a small idea of what each firmware is capable of and what not, similarities and differences, pros and cons.
Then it sounds like you'd be wanting to load each of them and use them for a few weeks each, then make your guide out of your own observations!
Everybody here has already chosen one and is obviously biased ;)

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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by pluto99 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:01 pm

I have a strong preference for openTX and I also know er9X. With the last mentioned, I found the mixer not very intuitive and it costs me days to program a full equipped glider. it frustrated me. After 3/4 of a year I swopped to openTX and started to re-program my glider. It all worked flawless. It exactly did what I expected what it should do while in er9x, I had all kind of work arounds for unexpected problems. Now I have telemetry FrSky and look with one eye to er9x what they do,.... anyway. I cannot go back since I still remember my headache with the mixer.

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Post by jhsa » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:04 pm

I use both.. :) and like both..

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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by MikeB » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:25 pm

pluto99 wrote:I have a strong preference for openTX and I also know er9X. With the last mentioned, I found the mixer not very intuitive and it costs me days to program a full equipped glider. it frustrated me. After 3/4 of a year I swopped to openTX and started to re-program my glider. It all worked flawless. It exactly did what I expected what it should do while in er9x, I had all kind of work arounds for unexpected problems. Now I have telemetry FrSky and look with one eye to er9x what they do,.... anyway. I cannot go back since I still remember my headache with the mixer.
Much of the mixer is the same in both. What features of openTx are you using that er9x doesn't appear to have that needed workarounds?

It would be more helpful if you could detail what you feel isn't as good as it might be, rather than just say it is not good enough.

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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by Rob Thomson » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:27 pm

He is a glider pilot - so I guess flight phases/trims?



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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by aesmith » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:43 pm

I was thinking of posting something along the lines of this original question. However now that someone's already done so, would this be the correct place to ask what the key differences are between OpenTX and the ER9X family? I started on ER9X (on a 9X), and swapped quite a long time ago to Open9x but I can't actually remember the reason for the change. Was Open9x first to support flight modes? Anyway for people trying to understand the differences between the two firmware families, could anyone give a quick summary of the functional differences?
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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by jhsa » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:32 pm

Here you can find out how er9x is now:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6473

It's the new manual.

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Post by aesmith » Mon Feb 29, 2016 4:05 pm

Thanks, I'll have a read through that. As I say I can't remember why I switched from ER9X to Open9x in the first place. Where I'm at just now is that I'm wondering whether to go for the 9Xtreme upgrade (which I think is supported only by ER9X) or for the Taranis (supported by both?)
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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by tshaw1 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:37 pm

Interesting, I was just asking basically the same question in another thread. As a new person to the hobby and now with a 9x equipped with a 9xtreme board I think my small experience came via each pc interface. I cold burn with OpenTX and had a hard time getting eepe to do the burn. I believe I burnt the er9x hex file to the Transmitter. I guess my question is does it hurt to use the OpenTX interface with er9x? Or should I use a different PC based product or burn OpenTX to my Transmitter? It's confusing out there folks??

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Post by MikeB » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:58 pm

Please see this post: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4&start=1350#p111935.

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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by tshaw1 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:46 pm

Turns out there's no choice for me, my hardware does not support the most recent OpenTX. So, it boils down to my interface issue. I can not get this avrdudue.exe to work at all on Windows 10 or 8?? Is there a download that includes this utility??
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Post by Kilrah » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:57 pm

Again, read the answer Mike gave you in the other thread you posted in, and linked again above. eePe and avrdude do NOT have anything to do with your setup.

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Post by tshaw1 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:50 pm

Again Mike I apologize... After a Search I found that the Avrdude software was in OpenTX and BLHeli that I had on my PC and must have been causing issues... I removed both and now all seems to be working fine with this issue... I'm now able to retrieve and save documents. Sorry for my confusion I believe now its time to read all 99 pages of your User Doc, Thanks for all your hard work on all this!

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Post by jhsa » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:26 pm

Have a look at these videos.. They might help to solve the problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNJPUZcqZRs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwy6JHyY0hE

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Post by Kilrah » Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:02 am

tshaw1 wrote:Again Mike I apologize... After a Search I found that the Avrdude software was in OpenTX and BLHeli that I had on my PC and must have been causing issues...
This again has absolutely nothing to do at all with your problem, which as he pointed was that you were using eePe instead of eepskye.

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Post by bob195558 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:14 am

To add some more info:
MikeB wrote:You need eepskye, rather than eepe. These are installed together, in the same directory, but only eepe gets a desktop icon (a problem I hope will be fixed in the next release). Just go to the directory in which you installed eepe, and find eepskye.exe. Create a shortcut to this and then use it!
It is best if you go to http://www.er9x.com/ and download r419 of eepe/eepskye from there. Regardless of the version number this is the latest revision, I had a version number problem when moving from googlecode to Github!
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See here and you will be able to find some good info about erSky9x
and how to use it: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=7182).
Yes do update to the newest ersky9x firmware and use to the newest version of the PC eeprom editor eePSkye,
find them here: (http://www.er9x.com/) which goes with erSky9x.

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Re: openTx Vs er9x, is any of the two better?

Post by jhsa » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:29 am

Just watch the videos I linked above. They teach you how to download, install, and use eepskye.

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