Control a $25 led x copter with 9x er9x?

Post by **ShowMaster** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:16 am

Any ideas on the LED optical protocol used for the non rf toy x blade copters? I'm on the lookout for a junked one to play with. One more option for er9x.
SM

Post by **cre8tiveleo** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:15 am

http://www.DelTang.co.uk/irheli.htm

Install the smallest rx in the toy and enjoy dsm2 controlled heli...

It plugs into where the ir rx senso is.

Post by **erazz** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:03 pm

Nice!
We need a "neat stuff" marker for stuff like this

Post by **Rob Thomson** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:04 pm

Hmm ... Will see what I can do!

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agusta600gt · Post by **agusta600gt** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 12:38 pm

so i will be able to control my s107g ???

what do i need on the TX

i guess we need step by step tuto for this too

Post by **cre8tiveleo** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:12 pm

You need a dsm tx, that rx in the link, and voila. Golden

rperkins · Post by **rperkins** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:57 pm

agusta600gt wrote:so i will be able to control my s107g ???

Pretty sure the s107G has a gyro built in to its receiver. So you would be giving that up.

I had been thinking the other way around. take apart the tx that comes with S107g, put it in a jr compatible tx module, and control it with the 9x. I have seen the breakout of the s107g ir protocol, but nothing on controlling it with 9x yet. This of course depends on whether your goal is to fly the s107g outside during the daytime, or if you just want to control the s107g indoors with the 9x. I havent even flown my s107g much since getting the mcpx. Well I fly it a little when my lack of even basic skill on the mcpx gets me down .

Post by **cre8tiveleo** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:10 pm

The ir sensor is where the rx wires into. You shouldn't loose anything.

rperkins · Post by **rperkins** » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:13 pm

oh ok. Thanks for setting me straight. I was thinking this would replace the 5-in-1. So its in addition to the 5-1. the small weight is amazing.

agusta600gt · Post by **agusta600gt** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:21 pm

im gonna have frsky telemetry kit so i wont use DSM...too bad it uses Ir....when flown outside,it drops like a bird poo

Post by **cre8tiveleo** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:25 pm

Ahh, but with ppx or pxx... You could use the secon ppm line to control a lp4dsm and control the model.

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FriedOnion · Post by **FriedOnion** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:10 pm

I wanted to do the same thing and found a nice option. The iphone IR transmitters work by the iphone producing a PPM signal which is then amplified and transmitted. This means that you can buy a pre-built one and plug it into the trainer port, or if you are true to the ER9x spirit build one yourself

All it takes is a few resistors, capacitors, a battery and the amplifier (which I think you might only need for Iphones because they use a lower voltage, if anyone could confirm for me that would be great

)

I'm going to go buy the parts in a few days and see if I can get it to work, but if anyone is interested I'll attach the schematics and PCB designs. FYI, they are the schematics from irdroid.

Post by **Rob Thomson** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:14 pm

Sweet! I have wanted to do this sort of thing for a while

Maybe I will make myself an IR module I can just plug in!

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pmackenzie · Post by **pmackenzie** » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:32 pm

FWIW, there used to be protocols in the 9X firmware intended to do IR control. (SILVA,B and C)
I assume that all you needed was an IR diode and a resistor connected to the PPM line to control the silverlit IR helis.

You can find the old code by digging through the revision pages.

Perhaps it is still in th9X?

Pat MacKenzie

FriedOnion · Post by **FriedOnion** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:24 am

FriedOnion wrote:I wanted to do the same thing and found a nice option. The iphone IR transmitters work by the iphone producing a PPM signal which is then amplified and transmitted. This means that you can buy a pre-built one and plug it into the trainer port, or if you are true to the ER9x spirit build one yourself All it takes is a few resistors, capacitors, a battery and the amplifier (which I think you might only need for Iphones because they use a lower voltage, if anyone could confirm for me that would be great )

I'm going to go buy the parts in a few days and see if I can get it to work, but if anyone is interested I'll attach the schematics and PCB designs. FYI, they are the schematics from irdroid.

Another advantage of this is that it would be very easy to use a iphone to control your th9x. This can be done with iphly's app and hardware (schematic here http://www.iphly.org/files/1813/0014/9245/opamp.png) the box is a module but you could plug it into the trainer port. With this if someone made a app, would it be possible to change settings on er9x?

Post by **ShowMaster** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:37 pm

This looks interesting.
http://www.leaderhobby.com/product.asp?ID=9394001226059
Comes with an ir ppm module.
SM

Post by **jhsa** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:42 pm

A friend just gave me one that looks like that one.. but it's 27MHz.. difficult to fly that thing..

or maybe it's just me..
I miss the roll stick. can't correct sideways

gbirkus · Post by **gbirkus** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:53 am

ShowMaster wrote:This looks interesting.
http://www.leaderhobby.com/product.asp?ID=9394001226059
Comes with an ir ppm module.
SM

Please is this working with PPM output on trainer port of 9x transmitters? Tried it somebody?
thanks.

Post by **ShowMaster** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:48 pm

gbirkus wrote:
ShowMaster wrote:This looks interesting.
http://www.leaderhobby.com/product.asp?ID=9394001226059
Comes with an ir ppm module.
SM
Please is this working with PPM output on trainer port of 9x transmitters? Tried it somebody?
thanks.

I'm not sure but,
Both units have their own batteries so only ppm signal is needed. The 9x can do that. The channel order may not match a stock 9x but er9x can make that work.
It does have a mono plug and the 9X is ok there.
Best option is to see if you can download and run the ferr app and use your apple device as a controller into your 9x or a flight sim that takes audio ppm input. If you can do that you can use it with the 9x I'm thinking. Maybe someone here has the time to try out the app and report. I mat try the app but other 9x projects are first. Large user base here so let's see if this post finds a volunteer.
SM

Post by **cre8tiveleo** » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:50 pm

Iphly, this one and a few others don't work as an input to the trainer. I am thinking it needs the mod you mentioned. I haven't done that yet. I just tried to use my Android and Itouch as the slave units. the Trainer calibration screen doesn't respond (the calibration values should move when there is input from the trainer port) My other tx's do make the calibration values move.

Soooo... if somone would like to try who has done the trainer input mod for other tx's, then we'll know... I can't do it at the moment.. no parts at work. It shouldl work with Iphly, he shows it used as a trainer with a futaba radio.

deadaim57 · Post by **deadaim57** » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:57 pm

Ok I have these>>
Syma S033G
Double Horse 9053
Can I do the mod so I can use my Flysky th9?
I have done the dsm mod.
What rx would I need to do this with?

Thanks
Tom

Post by **cre8tiveleo** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:35 pm

links?
these aren't 2.4 ghz, what does the rx in them look like now? Like the spektrum 5in1?

deadaim57 · Post by **deadaim57** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:50 pm

Here is the addy to the heli.

http://www.bananahobby.com/1999.html
http://www.xheli.com/56h-s033g-heli-yellow.html

Will try to get some pic of the contorl board.
Thanks for the help
Tom

deadaim57 · Post by **deadaim57** » Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:55 pm

Here is a pic of the S033g.(RED ONE)
And the double horse.9(GREEN ONE)
Tom

wallaguest1 · Post by **wallaguest1** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:54 am

i remember some one posted in a blog a way to do a PPM to IrDA for his Syma heli but i can't find it
any way i just find this, maybe someone find it interesting

looks like he used a "Carduino Nano Duo" for this

http://forum.rcdesign.ru/f59/thread223818.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-JtoTacaA0

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