Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by andrewju » Sat Nov 19, 2016 11:51 am

I have this "clone chip" taken off a spare mainboard received from HK. It may have been flashed with a 9Xtreme-compatible firmware, although I'm not sure (otherwise it likely has the stock firmware on it). Unfortunately, I don't have a mainboard to put it to at the moment, so I can't do much tests.

If Mike or someone else wants that chip for further investigation & tests, I can certainly send it!

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by Derpdiherp » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:41 pm

I'm finally at a point where I'm able to check whether this firmware works with the newer cloned chips, but I'm having a little problem.

I can't for the life of me find eepe for 64bit linux, the site on google code (https://code.google.com/archive/p/eepe/) has dead links.

Do I need to compile it myself? I'm on arch linux - does anyone know of an AUR repository?

Thanks.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by jhsa » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:11 pm

Please try http://www.er9x.com
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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by Derpdiherp » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:14 pm

Thanks for that, there only seems to be a 32 bit version of the program on there though.

I'm not sure I'll have all the 32 bit libraries to successfully use it or not.

Edit - Yeah confirmed for not working on 64bit systems.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by jhsa » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:24 pm

I think I have it working :o and I have a 64 bit Ububtu Studio installed on my PC. But it might be a very old version of eepe as I have been doing everything related to my radios on windows.. I will check, but only tomorrow now..

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by Derpdiherp » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:30 pm

This is my output from dpkg (don't like using it but it's a deb file)

sudo dpkg -i eepe-i386.deb
--snip for privacy--
dpkg: error processing archive eepe-i386.deb (--install):
package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
Errors were encountered while processing:
eepe-i386.deb

So pretty much a brick wall there. I could possibly hack around it but to be honest I'd rather just compile it for 64bit than do that.

Does anyone know where the latest source is located and what branches are safe to use?

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by MikeB » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:54 pm

eepe sources are here: https://github.com/MikeBland/mbtx. As I'm trying to do a release, the master branch has the latest.
I have a 32-bit version of linux running in a VirtualBox to enable me to build a 32-bit copy of eepe (and eepskye). I understood this could be run on a 64-bit copy of linux.
I think I'd need to create a 64-bit copy in a virtual box to be able to build a 64-bit copy of eepe.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by Derpdiherp » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:44 pm

Okay I'm making progress with building this from source, I'm attempting to build eepskye at the moment but I'll have a look at eepe as well. There seems to be a couple of things that need sorting from your end so far as eepskye goes though.

1. stamp-eepskye.h, have you forgotten to add this file to the repository? I removed the include for it from the mainwindow.cpp file as it didn't seem to actually be needed, but it's included again elsewhere so now I'm suspicious.

2. To save you a headache - in the eepskye.pro file, append "multimedia" to line 4 so we can use the QSound stuff.

If you could check out what's going on with number 1 I can carry on with this. Pissed off at the moment though as my new AR9X isn't working properly :(

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Re: RE: Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by jhsa » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:06 am

Derpdiherp wrote:. Pissed off at the moment though as my new AR9X isn't working properly :(
Please open another thread. We will try to help you with the Ar9x. :)

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by MikeB » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:42 am

Here is the stamp file. It gets generated automatically when I do a batch build from the command line for a release, so the revixion number is correct.

I'll look into the .pro file. I'm still using QT 4.7.3. If you are using a more recent version of QT, then there are some include changes.
After I get a release done, I'll look to upgrade my version of QT.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by dreed75 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:55 pm

Well I wasn't as good at soldering as I remembered so my replacement with a real chip was a fail. I ordered a new motherboard from hobbyking and they sent me a motherboard with a clone chip! Can't win

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by Kilrah » Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:20 pm

I've been contacted by someone from HK a couple of days ago who is willing to help find out what the matter is with these. I've requested info about the chip and any changes done, and he's relayed that to the factory. Waiting for the info at the moment.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by Derpdiherp » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:42 am

Mike if you want my board with the different cloned chip for proper testing you're welcome to it. All I've done to it is solder on a connection for firmware upgrades.

I'm running behind with getting it flashed etc due to sorting out the Ar9x board, if you just want me to do it I'll get it done eventually though.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by FlyskyRC » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:54 am

Sorry if this is a double post....

I am Jason from FLYSKY, I am looking for as much information into this issue as I can get so we can do some tests and find out exactly whats going on. If anyone wants to share information of tests they have done or issues they are having please contact me at [email protected]. All help is appreciated.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by jhsa » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:51 am

Hi Jason, welcome aboard OpenRCforums.com
Your first few posts need to be approved by a moderator, so you might not see your post immediately. But there are plenty of us here and we will do our best to approve them quickly so you don't have to double post ;) :)
Thank you for your patience :D

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by FlyskyRC » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:12 am

Sorry! Yeah I realized that after the second one! Thanks :D

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by MikeB » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:57 pm

Jason, do you have a 9X with this particular processor that you could flash to er9x and openTx?
Another thing that would be useful is if you could obtain a full datasheet of the processor for us.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by FlyskyRC » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:24 am

We have flashed all versions of the 9X with both er9x and openTX, we had some issues with the programmer, the initial version of AVRdude I had caused all sorts of odd issues. Also, the instructions I used used an older version of the board so yeah.... my first time having to mod a flysky product, fun and educational! Anyway some of my workmates are currently full time testing to see whats going on.

As for the data sheet I will see if I can track it down today or tomorrow. Its odd for us because the manufacturer claims that there is no difference between the chips, so the reports of this issue surprised us to say the least. Does anyone know someone who has a first hand account?

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by Derpdiherp » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:51 pm

Finally have a little time to try and compile eepskye again.

Mike I pulled the latest source and found another compiler error.

In node.cpp it complains about ambiguous use of the abs function. To fix this - include <cmath> and change all instances of abs to fabs ( I'm assuming that they're floating point ).

It's all compiled now so fingers crossed it runs ok.

Would you like my 64bit builds?

Edit - Yup that now runs fine on 64bit linux! :D

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by MikeB » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:37 pm

I've started to upgrade my copy of QtCreator on windows. Unfortunately, they've changed compiler, which means I'm getting a lot of compile errors due to the "PACK" macro then ignoring conditional compilation. I can solve this, but it needs quite a lot of edits.

If you PM me your 64-bit build(s) I can post them with all the other builds.

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by FlyskyRC » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:20 am

After finding a number of complaints about the TH9X and OpenTX firmware we decided to open an investigation to find out if these problems exist, and if they do what is the cause. We subjected all versions of the product to extensive testing and have found no issues with the TH9X itself or the OpenTX and er9x firmwares. That’s not to say that the issues that people have experienced do not exist, however we have found that many of these issues are caused largely by user error, or programmer errors rather than issues with the TH9X or firmware. This document contains information about the issues raised and the process we used to successfully flash the TH9X. The datasheet for the chip is available on the atmel website, we can find no differences in the way it functions at all compared to the old chip. The supplier has also confirmed it is the same.

We hope that this guide will help you deal with some of the problems people have been having modding this product, however remember that all modifications are at your own risk.


That said, if you guys do find any issues please email me at [email protected].
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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by bob195558 » Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:36 pm

Datasheet for the chip is available on the atmel website: (http://www.atmel.com/).
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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by JEANALTAYR » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:00 pm

hello
i had installed a spare board with green and firm attached its running but i cant benefit of the supplementary space
it said me eeprom low mem is it possible to "repair" this
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Post by jhsa » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:06 pm

You probably flashed the m64 version of the firmware to the 128k chip. That means you will only have the same eeprom size available as with the 64k chip. To have the extra eeprom space you need to flash "er9x-128.hex"
You can find the latest version at http://www.er9x.com
The version you have installed is quite old by the way..

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by JEANALTAYR » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:47 am

hello
yes agree with you its hold version m64 on 128 k chip to keep the settings first .possible in Jason 'tuto

after that i tried as you suggest and the failures of switch thr an ail have appeared
To return to the first version not easy( bugs in series)
i just have seen now ON openrcforum they advise about green chip on spare board from HK/ to no upgrade
with 64 version it seems to run correctly for info and more if some one can give an explanation
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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by jhsa » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:07 am

I think the AIL and THR switch errors are not bugs, have nothing to do with the chip, but with the fact that you might have installed the wrong firmware on your radio, or, if you installed the m128 version, you need to go to the hardware menu and turn ON the option "Frsky Mod Done" in case you did the telemetry mod to your radio, or turn it OFF if you didn't.
To access the hardware menu, turn the radio ON while holding the left horizontal trim to the left for about a second or two. The hardware menu can then be found in the Radio Setup index menu..

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by JEANALTAYR » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:10 pm

Hello
thanks João I have to learn with my new board :? waste some chapters of my french manual
i solve thr not iddle changing the stick mode and switch errors with frsky mod done like you suggest ( p 5 of the manual )
i have a look at the second page but no comment on manual ?? '(see attached )
calibration done ;audiohaptic sound mode : beeprvoice ;alarms bat and throttle selected

now i write the eeprom (64) it de engage frsky in hardware new try and the radio accept finaly

possible i have to check rewrite models i had ...........and check in flight
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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by jhsa » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:25 pm

Sorry, but I am not understanding some of what you are saying. And I don't know any French manual. Link Please??

Here are some questions:

What firmware and which version did you flash to the radio??

Did you do the telemetry mod? moving the AIL and THR switches to other pins at the top of the radio?

If so, did you enable "Frsky Mod Done" in the Hardware menu?

I would recommend flashing the latest er9x for the m128 processor.
Then configure the general settings the way you want them. Do this on the radio, also calibrate the sticks and pots.
Next connect the radio to the PC and start eepe. Read the radio's eeprom onto eepe. Next, load the eeprom you have saved before to your computer. Now you should have 2 eeproms open in eepe.
Copy the models frrom the saved eeprom to the one you just downloaded from the radio, by just dragging them with the mouse. Them burn this eeprom back to the radio, but now with the models in it. Before closing eepe, save your new eeprom to the PC with a descriptive name..

I hope this helps

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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by JEANALTAYR » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:40 pm

the french manuel i had trad in 2012 for R 762 is now hold
version v1 97- mike er9x-r820 frsky 128
telemetry mod and voice with mp3 module hard done
for the eeprom i had transfered the eprom from my 64 board to eepe and from eppe to the new board
i think due to hold eprom it change frsky mode in the firm alone i correct that and now its ok
thanks for your help
last question about the previous picture on hard page 2 infos??
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Re: Problem with last new Hobbyking Turnigy 9X transmiters.

Post by jhsa » Thu Dec 15, 2016 1:51 pm

Please download this manual for the r820

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6473

Now, the picture shows that you can add more switches to your radio, but only if you have a serial voice module I think. If you have the old Parallel version of the voice module that uses the LCD lines, I'm not sure if it is possible to add those switches.
I for example, have 2 extra pushbuttons on the back of my er9x m2561 radio, as well as the ELE switch changed from 2 position to 3 position..

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