9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

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9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:40 pm

9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod
9Xtreme 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod_a.jpg
9Xtreme Radio_a
This Mod will show the process to replacing one of the 9Xtreme's pots
(P1,P2 or P3) to a Taranis FrSky 6-Position Switch.
9X Radio P3 pot Wire Colors.jpg
9X P3 pot
FrSky 6-Position Switch in P3_b.jpg
FrSky 6-Position Switch in P3 position
9X Radio FrSky 6-Position Switch in P3.jpg
9X Radio FrSky 6-Position Switch in P3 pot position.
Hold the left trim to the outside while powering up 9Xtreme Radio,
this will give access to the Hardware menu.
Next go to Radio Setup / Hardware and scroll to 6 Position Switch and set it to P3.
9Xtreme Radio Setup.jpg
9Xtreme Hardware menu.jpg
9Xtreme Hardware menu 6 Pos SW.jpg
Set 6 Pos SW to P3.jpg
Set 6 Position Switch to P3
Next we Calibrate newly installed FrSky 6-Position Switch.
1) Begin by rotating the 6-position switch all the way to the left, which is switch position 1.
Scroll down to 6P0 highlighting the 0000 beside 6P0 and then press MENU.
2) Next rotate the 6-Position Switch to position 2.
Scroll down to 6P1 highlighting the 0000 beside 6P1 and then press MENU.
3) Rotate the 6-Position Switch to position 3.
Scroll down to 6P2 highlighting the 0000 beside 6P2 and then press MENU.
4) Rotate the 6-Position Switch to position 4.
Scroll down to 6P3 highlighting the 0000 beside 6P3 and then press MENU.
5) Rotate the 6-Position Switch to position 5.
Scroll down to 6P4 highlighting the 0000 beside 6P4 and then press MENU.
6) Rotate the 6-Position Switch to position 6.
Scroll down to 6P5 highlighting the 0000 beside 6P5 and then press MENU. 8-)
6 Pos SW Calibration Values_f.jpg
6-Position Switch Calibration Values 6P5 - 6P0.
7) Press the Exit button and in the Radio Setup menu go to DiagSwitch menu and note at the top line where you see 6P5.
8) Rotate 6-Position Switch from position 6 to position 5 and the 6P5 should change to 6P4 for switch position 5.
As you rotate through the switch positions you should see these values to change from 6P5 to 6P0.
6 Pos SW Calibrated.jpg
6-Position Switch Calibrated when able to change 6P4.
The changing values of these switch positions indicates that your FrSky 6-Position Switch is now Calibrated! :)

Aloft (US) FrSky 6 Position Mode/Flap Switch: (https://alofthobbies.com/frsky-6-positi ... witch.html).
More information for the 9Xtreme: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=7182) and (viewtopic.php?f=126&t=8479&p=110840#p110916).
Also this video may be a help too: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=981zcTdqoNU).

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:17 pm

6 Pos SW Calibrated_6P0.jpg
6-Position Switch Calibrated at position 1 showing 6P0.
"Finished 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod" :D

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======================================================================
Note: The installing instructions above this line have been updated so that they are
correct for installing the Taranis 6-Position Switch in P3 position of the 9Xtreme radio.

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Below this line is more info about the process we went through perfecting this successful mod.
=====================================================================================
Hi Mike or João,
I have the 6-Position Taranis switch installed (P3) and when trying to calibrate it,
it is not having even values between the 6 positions.
I see that it can have these values entered manually.
If so, what are the values that I should be entering ? :?:

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by jhsa » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:32 pm

Are you sure you're using P3? Which of the pots did you replace?

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:35 pm

If it is the Frsky switch then I believe the positions are not even. The whole point of the calibration is the firmware will find out what the steps are and match the switch.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:49 pm

The one on the front half case on the left side.
P3_6 Position Switch_b.jpg
P3_6-Position Switch_b
P3 Radio Setting 6 Position Switch_c.jpg
P3 Radio Setting 6-Position Switch_c
I looked at all P1 P2 P3 Radio Settings / Hardware and they are all the same.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:53 pm

MikeB wrote:If it is the Frsky switch then I believe the positions are not even. The whole point of the calibration is the firmware will find out what the steps are and match the switch.

Mike.
Then its OK that when I move the Switch and it dose not indicate even spacing ?
And there are no values in the P3 6 positions hardware settings ? :?:

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:12 pm

MikeB wrote:It should be a matter of fitting the 6-pos switch instead of one of the pots,
then going to the hardware menu, selecting the pot position as the 6-pos switch source, then carry out the calibration.
Mike.
When I did the Taranis with OpenTX, when I got the wiring correct and after several tries of calibrating, it then made the spacing even and place values in the 6 positions. But I do not have that radio here now to view it again.

Because there are six positions I am not able to center it. What do I do in this case ? :?:

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:27 pm

To calibrate the 6-pos switch:
Turn the switch fully one way, select the top of the 6 items and press MENU. Switch the switch to the next position, go down to the second item and press MENU again. Repeat for the remaining 4 switch positions and items.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:17 am

Hi Mike,
I did not make any progress, I may not be understanding the 6-Position Switch procedure properly yet.
This maybe because I had a Laparoscpic Hernia Repair yesterday, feeling sore now, need to take a break.
I have the 6-Position Switch temporarily connected for now.
I will finished the 6-Position Switch connections before trying the calibration again.

Is it OK to just use what the FrSky 6-Position Switch as it is showing ? :?:

Thanks

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:47 am

Yes. I have a couple of FrSky 6-pos switches. I'll see if I can test one.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:56 am

HI Mike,
Thanks for trying the FrSky 6-pos switch calibration.
I am using the erSky9x-9xt firmware version:
VERS: V.3531-Mike
DATE: 08.01.2016
SVN: ersky9x-r218
MOD: 9XT

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:16 pm

Looks like I had a problem in the 6-pos switch calibration, relating to the direction the switch operated and non-linear steps.
I've just posted new test versions with this fixed.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:18 am

Hi Mike,
I have the new 9Xtreme test firmware ersky9xProvR219e.zip installed.
9XT Test firmware 6 pos SW.jpg
9Xtreme Test firmware for the calibration of the FrSky 6-Position Switch.
I am still not making any progress toward viewing even spacing between the 6 positions of the 6-Position Switch.
I am not understanding the Calibration procedure for the 6-Position Switch.
I am not understanding what items are ? :oops:
Could items also be meaning the 6 position of the 6-Position Switch ? :?:
I have been trying many different ways to calibrate the FrSky 6-Position Switch.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:20 am

Go to the screen you show in your post above labelled: "P3 Radio Setting 6-Position Switch_c".
Rotate the 6-position switch fully left. Move the reverse video highlighting to the 0000 beside 6P0:, and press MENU.
Now turn the switch 1 position right, move the reverse video highlighting to the 0000 beside 6P1:, and press MENU.
Now turn the switch 1 more position right, move the reverse video highlighting to the 0000 beside 6P2:, and press MENU.
Repeat 3 more times for the remaining switch positions and the 0000s beside 6P3:, 6P4: and 6P5:.
The calibration is now complete.
Now go to the DIAGSWITCH menu. The current position of the 6-pos switch is shown on the top line. It should be reading 6P5. Turn the switch to each of the other positions and the displayed value should change to 6P4, 6P3 etc. down to 6P0. If it does, then the calibration is correct.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:16 pm

Hi Mike,
Thank you for the erSky9x, FrSky 6-Position Switch calibration procedure.
Here are the digit values I got.
First Cal Values_a.jpg
First Calibration Values
I have done the 6-Position Switch calibration procedures about 15 times now and some times the digit values will change, but still has not calibrated.
Fifth Cal Values_b.jpg
Fifth Calibration Values
Tenth Cal Values_c.jpg
Tenth Calibration Values
Fifteenth Cal Values_d.jpg
Fifteenth Calibration Values
When I went to the DIAGSWITCH menu, the 6P5 reading is always staying the same when rotating the 6-Position Switch to the other switch positions.
6P5 not changing_e.jpg
6P5 is not changing, no calibration.
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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:13 pm

I think I can see the problem, I hope to post a new test version a bit later.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:36 pm

Posted!
Testing on too many different hardware platforms, I missed a difference on the 9Xtreme.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:59 pm

Hi Mike,
With the newest Test erSky9x-9xt firmware, it is now showing the FrSky 6-Position Switch is Calibrated.
6 Pos SW Calibrated.jpg
6P4 position is showing 6-Position Switch is calibrated when it is changed to a different switch positions.
I will update the first post to complete the installation instructions of the FrSky 6-Position Switch.

Thank you Mike ! :D

When I upgraded the Taranis-x9d with OpenTX firmware, when trying to calibrate the
FrSky 6-Position Switch, I was working in the radio's Calibration menu.
Whether it calibrated by it self or maybe I stumbled onto the calibration process, it added all the position values at once
and evenly spaced out the position indicator bar marker's too.
OpenTX also placed a 6 under the position indicator bar when the 6-Position Switch was selected in the Radio Setup.
I am not asking for any more changes, I just wanted to add my experience with OpenTX when upgrading to the
FrSky 6-Position Switch with the Taranis-x9d radio.


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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by jhsa » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:15 pm

Bob, you definitely like 3 positios switches, eh?? ;) :D
I can see at least 5 of them on your picture :) :)

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:35 pm

Hi João,
The purpose of the several photos was to show the different calibration values between them when doing the calibration process.
I was thinking it may have value to show that these values were changing.
I known now that it did not have any worth to understanding to why it was not working. :D

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by lols » Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:48 pm

I got mine to work using the instructions you posted. Thanks for this mod it is awesome. I had added a 6 pos to P and it was a pain before.

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Post by bob195558 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 12:54 pm

Thank you lols . :)

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:00 pm

HobbyKing has a Turnigy DIY 6 Position Switch for Turnigy 9X / 9XR / 9XR-Pro,
for a lot more money, see here: (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... source=EDM).

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by Rad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:14 pm

So I bought one of those hobbyking 6 position switches. Im not sure of how to install it.There are two photos, firt one is the 6 pos switch I have received and the other one is my flysky radio. Which wire goes where?

On the first try the radio did not switch on and I removed it and the radio now works perfectly again. So I would like to be sure before I break it.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Wed Jun 29, 2016 5:59 pm

I'm not familiar with that switch, but I can see some pads labelled VCC and GND. Looking at the pot, I would expect the red wire to go to VCC and the black wire to GND. The brown wire would then go to the JP2 connection.

I would suggest you first measure the resistance between the VCC and GND connections, with the switch in all 6 positions. I would hope for the same measurement in all cases, in particular the resistance should never go to (or near) 0 ohms.

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by Rad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:28 pm

Just in case it helps, is the same switch Kevin is using here: http://www.rctanksaustralia.com/forum/v ... 117&t=1137
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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by Rad » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:45 pm

I got it. Red wire goes to GND, black to VCC and brown to JP2. Works perfect. :)

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by birdman » Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:07 am

Hello bob19998,
What rev of firmware are you using for the 6 position switch? I have ersky9x-r218 dated 8/26/2015 but the hardware menu has no mention of a 6 position switch.
Thanks, Birdman

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by bob195558 » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:49 am

Hi Birdman,
I believe you need to update your 9Xtreme firmware, erSky9x9XT, look for ersky9x for 9Xtreme here: (http://www.er9x.com/).
Also a good time to update your EEPROM Editor, eepSkye.
For a directory of more 9Xtreme info see here: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=7182).

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Re: 9Xtreme Radio 6-Position Switch Upgrade Mod

Post by MikeB » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:07 pm

I post 'test' versions of ersky9x here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4676#p65894.
While they are called 'test' versions they function correctly unless they are marked as needing careful testing.
ersky9xProvR219t_music.zip contains the most recent version.

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