Programming P-51 gear doors
Programming P-51 gear doors
In ER9X I have programmed my gear door sequence as follows:
CH06: +125FULL Switch(GEA) Delay (u2:d2) Slow(u2:d2)
CH08: +125FULL Switch(SW2) Delay (u6:d0) Slow(u2:d2)
CSwitch1: v>ofs CH6 123
CSwitch2: XOR GEA SW4
CSwitch3: v<ofs CH6 -123
CSwitch4: OR SW1 !SW5
CSwitch5 OR SW3 !SW4
However, in OpenTX the gear door sequence does not work any more, the doors are stuck at the servos center point.
I tried to replace the ER9X value "v>ofs"with a>x" and "v<ofs" with "a<x".
I also played around with the "100"and "-100"values.
The switches in OpenTX now look like:
CH06: +125FULL Switch(GEA) Delay (u2:d2) Slow(u2:d2)
CH08: +125FULL Switch(CS2) Delay (u6:d0) Slow(u2:d2)
CSwitch1: a>x CH6 100
CSwitch2: XOR GEA CS4
CSwitch3: a<x CH6 -100
CSwitch4: OR CS1 !CS5
CSwitch5 OR CS3 !CS4
Anyone knows what I'm doing wrong here?
CH06: +125FULL Switch(GEA) Delay (u2:d2) Slow(u2:d2)
CH08: +125FULL Switch(SW2) Delay (u6:d0) Slow(u2:d2)
CSwitch1: v>ofs CH6 123
CSwitch2: XOR GEA SW4
CSwitch3: v<ofs CH6 -123
CSwitch4: OR SW1 !SW5
CSwitch5 OR SW3 !SW4
However, in OpenTX the gear door sequence does not work any more, the doors are stuck at the servos center point.
I tried to replace the ER9X value "v>ofs"with a>x" and "v<ofs" with "a<x".
I also played around with the "100"and "-100"values.
The switches in OpenTX now look like:
CH06: +125FULL Switch(GEA) Delay (u2:d2) Slow(u2:d2)
CH08: +125FULL Switch(CS2) Delay (u6:d0) Slow(u2:d2)
CSwitch1: a>x CH6 100
CSwitch2: XOR GEA CS4
CSwitch3: a<x CH6 -100
CSwitch4: OR CS1 !CS5
CSwitch5 OR CS3 !CS4
Anyone knows what I'm doing wrong here?
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
There is no FULL in openTX, so you must have forgotten something
FULL Switch(GEA) is just GEA as source.
FULL Switch(GEA) is just GEA as source.
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
You are right!
Attempt 2:
CH06: +125 GEA Delay (u2:d2)
CH08: +125 MAX Switch(CS2) Delay (u6:d0) Slow(u2:d2)
CSwitch1: a>x CH6 99
CSwitch2: XOR GEA CS4
CSwitch3: a<x CH6 -99
CSwitch4: OR CS1 !CS5
CSwitch5 OR CS3 !CS4
But this doesn't work either. Hmmmm
Attempt 2:
CH06: +125 GEA Delay (u2:d2)
CH08: +125 MAX Switch(CS2) Delay (u6:d0) Slow(u2:d2)
CSwitch1: a>x CH6 99
CSwitch2: XOR GEA CS4
CSwitch3: a<x CH6 -99
CSwitch4: OR CS1 !CS5
CSwitch5 OR CS3 !CS4
But this doesn't work either. Hmmmm
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
What do you want to do exactly? What do you have on which channels?
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
I'd like the main gear doors of a P-51 behave scale like.
So the events will be:
Select gear down
1. main door open
2. gear goes down
3. main door closes again
Select gear up
1. main door open
2. gear goes up
3. main door closes again
The gear itself is on channel 6 (GEAR switch)
The two main doors each have their separate channel, 7 & 8.
At the moment I'm trying this:
Mixes:
CH06: +125% GEA Delay (u1:d1)
CH07: +125% MAX Switch(CS2) Delay (u3.5:d0) Slow(u0.5:d0.5)
CH08: +125% MAX Switch(CS2) Delay (u3.5:d0) Slow(u0.5:d0.5
Custom switches:
CSwitch1: a>x CH6 99
CSwitch2: XOR GEA CS4
CSwitch3: a<x CH6 -99
CSwitch4: OR CS1 !CS5
CSwitch5: OR CS3 !CS4
Would this help?
Thanks for your help.
So the events will be:
Select gear down
1. main door open
2. gear goes down
3. main door closes again
Select gear up
1. main door open
2. gear goes up
3. main door closes again
The gear itself is on channel 6 (GEAR switch)
The two main doors each have their separate channel, 7 & 8.
At the moment I'm trying this:
Mixes:
CH06: +125% GEA Delay (u1:d1)
CH07: +125% MAX Switch(CS2) Delay (u3.5:d0) Slow(u0.5:d0.5)
CH08: +125% MAX Switch(CS2) Delay (u3.5:d0) Slow(u0.5:d0.5
Custom switches:
CSwitch1: a>x CH6 99
CSwitch2: XOR GEA CS4
CSwitch3: a<x CH6 -99
CSwitch4: OR CS1 !CS5
CSwitch5: OR CS3 !CS4
Would this help?
Thanks for your help.
Last edited by Lenop on Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
I think I have seen a template for this in this forum
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Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Yeah, you're correct, that was me asking for it last year.jhsa wrote:I think I have seen a template for this in this forum
It works fine on ER9X but the conversion to OpenTx somehow fails and the template no longer works. No matter what I've tried.
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Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
I have only recently converted from ER9X to OpenTX and love it EXCEPT for not having FULL. With the Gear on my planes, I have had to add a second mix with '!GEAR" as the switch and negative weight. Like this:
Mixes:
CH06: +125% MAX Switch(GEA)
-125% MAX Switch(!GEA)
This appears to because MAX only goes from 0 to Weight where the ER9X FULL goes from -100 to +100. I cannot find any other way to make the DSR work.
Mixes:
CH06: +125% MAX Switch(GEA)
-125% MAX Switch(!GEA)
This appears to because MAX only goes from 0 to Weight where the ER9X FULL goes from -100 to +100. I cannot find any other way to make the DSR work.
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Simply choose GEA as source and no switch.
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Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Thanks Kilrah, I was sure I tried that after uploading my Models from the ER9X save and it didn't work. Must have had something wrong. Works a treat. Thanks again and great work you guys. Just have to save up for a Taranis now. 9XR modded with FrSky Telemetry and button mod is nice but I am hanging out for a Taranis.
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Hy,
does anyone have a running gear door sequenzer for Taranis
with no set or reset aFlip Flop as Memmory
helle
does anyone have a running gear door sequenzer for Taranis
with no set or reset aFlip Flop as Memmory
helle
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
This is not from Taranis, but I assume, it should work
Sequenced Gear Doors
GEA switch starts CH16 as a timebar
The Switches are activated at certain positions of CH16
When GEA switch is activated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from -100 to +100
CH16 at >= -90: Sw1 opens the doors (CH15)
CH16 at >= 0: Sw2 extends the gears (CH14)
CH16 at >= 90: Sw3 deactivates SW1 and closes the doors (CH15)
When GEA switch is deactivated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from +100 to -100
CH16 at <= 90: !CS3 deactivates CS1 and the door is opend
CH16 at <= 0: !Cs2 retracts the gears
CH16 at <= -90: !CS1 closes the doors
The setup:
CS1 v>ofs CH16 -90 CS3
CS2 v>ofs CH16 0
CS3 v<ofs CH16 90
CH14 +100%FULL Switch(SW2) Slow(u3:d3)
CH15 +100%FULL Switch(SW1) Slow(u3:d3)
CH16 +100%FULL Switch(GEA) Slow(u10:d10)
Reinhard
Sequenced Gear Doors
GEA switch starts CH16 as a timebar
The Switches are activated at certain positions of CH16
When GEA switch is activated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from -100 to +100
CH16 at >= -90: Sw1 opens the doors (CH15)
CH16 at >= 0: Sw2 extends the gears (CH14)
CH16 at >= 90: Sw3 deactivates SW1 and closes the doors (CH15)
When GEA switch is deactivated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from +100 to -100
CH16 at <= 90: !CS3 deactivates CS1 and the door is opend
CH16 at <= 0: !Cs2 retracts the gears
CH16 at <= -90: !CS1 closes the doors
The setup:
CS1 v>ofs CH16 -90 CS3
CS2 v>ofs CH16 0
CS3 v<ofs CH16 90
CH14 +100%FULL Switch(SW2) Slow(u3:d3)
CH15 +100%FULL Switch(SW1) Slow(u3:d3)
CH16 +100%FULL Switch(GEA) Slow(u10:d10)
Reinhard
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Hy, Reinhard,
Danke! I will test it
Helle
Danke! I will test it
Helle
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Hy,
here a gear door sequenzer from Reinhard adapted to Taranis
SF is the Gear switch
Ch16 is a timebar and helpchannel
CH15 is the Door
CH14 is the Gear
Sequenced Gear Doors
SF switch starts CH16 as a timebar
The Custom-Switches are activated at certain positions of CH16
When SF-switch is activated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from -100 to +100
CH16 at >= -90: CS1 opens the doors (CH15)
CH16 at >= 0: CS2 extends the gears (CH14)
CH16 at >= 90: CS3 deactivates CS1 and closes the doors (CH15)
When SF-switch is deactivated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from +100 to -100
CH16 at <= 90: !CS3 deactivates CS1 and the door is opend
CH16 at <= 0: !CS2 retracts the gears
CH16 at <= -90: !CS1 closes the doors
Here the very short programm:
At Cusom Switches
CS1 a>x CH16 -90 AND CS3
CS2 a>x CH16 0
CS3 a<x CH16 90
At Mixers
CH14 +100% CS2 Slow(u3:d3)
CH15 +100% CS1 Slow(u3:d3)
CH16 +100% SF Slow(u10:d10)
Ch 14 and CH15 runs from -100% to +100%
The real min/max positions of the Doors and the Gears you must adapt with weight and offset at CH14 and CH15
Danke Reinhard
Helle
here a gear door sequenzer from Reinhard adapted to Taranis
SF is the Gear switch
Ch16 is a timebar and helpchannel
CH15 is the Door
CH14 is the Gear
Sequenced Gear Doors
SF switch starts CH16 as a timebar
The Custom-Switches are activated at certain positions of CH16
When SF-switch is activated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from -100 to +100
CH16 at >= -90: CS1 opens the doors (CH15)
CH16 at >= 0: CS2 extends the gears (CH14)
CH16 at >= 90: CS3 deactivates CS1 and closes the doors (CH15)
When SF-switch is deactivated:
CH16 slowly sweeps from +100 to -100
CH16 at <= 90: !CS3 deactivates CS1 and the door is opend
CH16 at <= 0: !CS2 retracts the gears
CH16 at <= -90: !CS1 closes the doors
Here the very short programm:
At Cusom Switches
CS1 a>x CH16 -90 AND CS3
CS2 a>x CH16 0
CS3 a<x CH16 90
At Mixers
CH14 +100% CS2 Slow(u3:d3)
CH15 +100% CS1 Slow(u3:d3)
CH16 +100% SF Slow(u10:d10)
Ch 14 and CH15 runs from -100% to +100%
The real min/max positions of the Doors and the Gears you must adapt with weight and offset at CH14 and CH15
Danke Reinhard
Helle
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Simplest method is using a five point curve. Easy to set up and very flexible.Helle wrote:Hy,
does anyone have a running gear door sequenzer for Taranis
with no set or reset aFlip Flop as Memmory
helle
One of the first things I did when I got my Taranis was to set up a door sequencer for a P51. My first attempt was mainly using timers and it worked well. However I thought there might be another way, so I did a set up using Cutom switches and pseudo channels and that also worked. I then posted a comment on RCMF forum and one of the guys on there posted a reply saying the easiest method was to use a custom 5 point curve.it works and is so simple to set up.
The settings I used are as follows.
+ 100
- 100 , - 60
- 100 , 0
- 100 , + 60
+ 100
You can vary The +/ - 60s to give the ratio between door travel and time doors remain fully open.
I then set a mix, for the door ch, with SF as source ( gear switch ), weight - 100, delay at zero and duration 7 seconds (set to your own personal requirement).
Then set a mix for wheel ch, again SF as source, delay 3 seconds up and down, no duration, as I'm using air retracts.
If you're using proportional servos you can add a duration value, but you will have to increase the duration on the curve overall and reduce the values of 60s in the curve.
If you have any questions, on the above, please ask.
Tom
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Copy of my gear door curve:
tom
tom
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Hi
I have just received my Taranis, i am having difficulty setting up my gear door sequencer.
I cannot understand what to do.
I have setup ch6 as gear doors, ch7 Gear, but i would like to have the doors to close when retacted & when down.
I have tried to create a curve, but when i setup the cv1 in ch6, the door servo does not work at all?
Please can anyone help me
John
I have just received my Taranis, i am having difficulty setting up my gear door sequencer.
I cannot understand what to do.
I have setup ch6 as gear doors, ch7 Gear, but i would like to have the doors to close when retacted & when down.
I have tried to create a curve, but when i setup the cv1 in ch6, the door servo does not work at all?
Please can anyone help me
John
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Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
You will need a custom switch to trigger the door position when the gear I an in certain positions.
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Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Hi RobRob Thomson wrote:You will need a custom switch to trigger the door position when the gear I an in certain positions.
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I don't understand what you mean, or do i know how to set up a custom switch?
Re: Programming P-51 gear doors
Hy,
here are two different running example at pdf for Taranis
in german
Helle
here are two different running example at pdf for Taranis
in german
Helle
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