Taranis QX7 bluetooth

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by ronny1407 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:42 pm

MikeB wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:46 pm
Are you able to test this module in the trainer mode to another Tx with a BT module from FrSky?
I only have the q7 so i can't test it.
MikeB wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:46 pm
In particular, it seems you are testing it in 'slave' mode.
Right.
MikeB wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:46 pm
When using a HM-10 module, I've found it is using a different "UUID" value that means it doesn't 'talk' to a FrSky module.
Do you set a Local addr/Dist addr?
Do you try to change the UUID of the module (AT+UUID0xAAA0)?

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by MikeB » Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:25 pm

I'm using ersky9x, not openTx, so the setting operation is different. I have bluetooth modules scan for slaves, and keep a list of up to 4 slaves to which you are able to connect. I will be adding an option to choose the UUID to allow operation with both FrSky and non-FrSky modules.
You may well find that the AT commands used by the HM-11 and the FrSky module are slightly different, so using the HM-11 in master mode may not work.

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by ronny1407 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:36 pm

MikeB wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:25 pm
You may well find that the AT commands used by the HM-11 and the FrSky module are slightly different, so using the HM-11 in master mode may not work.
I see, the HM-11 don't understand '"AT+TXPW3' and so nothing works. I can connect to the Taranis but i get no Telemetry-Data. The HM-11 also send no Peripheral or Central so the bluetooth Code won't work with HM-11.

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by MikeB » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:52 am

Have a search for "bluetooth40_en.pdf". This gives details of the commands the HM-10 (and HM-11) use.

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by ShowMaster » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:29 pm

Are we any closer to getting the Frsky Bt board working in a non S Qx7?
Main interest is to just get it working to recommended or not, it’s usefulness. Still no detailed reports or videos on how well it works in the Qx7S for the hype and increased price?



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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by MikeB » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:49 pm

Not yet! I've been getting r221 of ersky9x released, together with r422 of eepskye.
I now have 5 (or 6) different bluetooth modules (HC-06, HC-05, HM-10, CC-41[HM-10 clone] and the FrSky Horus one [X9E is completely different]). I'm looking to support all of these, although I may leave the CC-41 out since it is possible to re-flash it to be a 'real' HM-10.
These have slightly different "AT" commands and responses, so I'm trying to package these to allow the installed module to be selected from the menu.

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by jhsa » Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:10 pm

I have 2 HM-10 clones. Bought them for testing. But if the HC-05 can do all the BT4.0 does, then I might stick with the HC-05 I have installed in all my radios. I don't have any Taranis or Horus.. All my radios are 9x with 9XT, Skyboard, and ar9x boards, and also a 9XR-PRO.

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by ShowMaster » Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:03 am

Thank you for the update. Low priory but interested to know what if any will be the outcome.


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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by ShowMaster » Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:57 pm

ShowMaster wrote:Are we any closer to getting the Frsky Bt board working in a non S Qx7?
Main interest is to just get it working to recommended or not, it’s usefulness. Still no detailed reports or videos on how well it works in the Qx7S for the hype and increased price?



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I’m just renewing my interest in this.
Still not much out there on how it works in the 7S.
That and I had hoped that Frsky had shared schematics (NDA) for the 7 and 7 S to see what if there’s a difference in boards like missing traces.
Something that couldn’t be directly shared but could possibly be hinted at?
I’ve yet to see a 7s to be able to do any visual of its board vs my 7.
There are so may standard Qx7’s in use at my field now that getting the Frsky wireless Bt working in the Qx7 could actually be worth it if is does work.
Too bad if it works well, that Frsky couldn’t have offered a Bt diy option (plug in) to all Qx7 owners as RC training is an important part of attracting new flyers into the hobby. Yes there’s the trainer cord option but wireless is so nice once you try it.
Yes a wireless module can be used ( my current setup), or a receiver buried in the case, but again, the main board is setup for the Bt option if made to work.







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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by MikeB » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:40 pm

I haven't had time to progress using the BT module as supplied by FrSky yet. I have heard that using trainer with that module may not work very well.

My QX7 (not s) does have a HC-05 (BT 2.0) module in it, and this is working fine using ersky9x. I don't believe openTx has ever supported this module.

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Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by ShowMaster » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:58 am

Thanks Mike. The way it’s looking Frsky’s attempt at Bt is a bust.



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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by jhsa » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:28 am

They should have asked Mike.. He knows how to, and Ersky9x has it for ages. :mrgreen:

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by ShowMaster » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:07 am

Agreed!
Thanks to Mike, we have many features that would never have been added by Frsky or the opentx team!
I sure don’t miss Zadig!


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Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by Daedalus66 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:59 pm

I remember when we were on the beta test team for the 9XR Pro in early 2014. I was helping Muchy write the manual that explained how to install and upgrade ErSky9x using Zadig. It was hard.

Then Mike developed the boot loader and the problems largely went away. Zadig was reduced to a last resort, to be used only when the Tx was thoroughly bricked. I was seriously grateful.

Then he applied the boot loader to OpenTX and also saved the Taranis crowd (which included me) from Zadig.

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Re: Taranis QX7 bluetooth

Post by Olioli99 » Thu May 03, 2018 7:41 am

Hi,

YOu wrote in one post the hc-05 has to be modified:
http://openrcforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7640

PLease which part is mandatory - I read it a few time but couldn't find the particular point.

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