Taranis binding internal module to X8R and X6R receivers

[kalle123]

ohh, please answer my question. how long did it took to cross the atlantic? yes, indeed.. getting back on topic:

Around 5 to 6 days from Europe to the Caribic.
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Don't you have a chance to reflash the firmware of your X6R?
All you need is a FTDI USB UART and a diode + cable.

Wiring is like that

My diy adapter

and the procedure

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One thing, you have to invert RX and TX signal with ft_prog in the FTDI chip. But that is not a big thing..

http://diydrones.com/profiles/blogs/frs ... -ftdi-cabl

br

[funkz]

Hello again BR, i have tried with the FTDI (have the same as you) and inverted the RX and TX using the FT_PROG utility.... my X6R is still stuck on GREEN LED (DIMMED) - RED LED (ON).

Is quite annyoing to loose so much time trying to understand what could have gone wrong after binding the receiver... I can only remember trying with a different model number for the receiver and only being able to bind using D16.

Wish I could just flash it with a new firmware but is like if it has a bigger problem...

[kalle123]

br = best regards

funkz, could you write the firmware to your RX? It is not clear to me.

i have tried with the FTDI (have the same as you) and inverted the RX and TX using the FT_PROG utility.

Did it succeed? Did you see that message here

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You are supposed to use that firmware here http://www.frsky-rc.com/download/view.p ... ug%20Fixed

br KH (KH is a shortcut for my first name Karl-Heinz)

[funkz]

KH,



No, as the pics show... it stays on: Finding Device.... so no chance to flash the firmware since it can't find the device.

BR

[MikeB]

To confirm, you need to get to the "Finding device" stage, then, and only then, plug the receiver SPort into the FTDI.

Mike.

[funkz]

Yes, thanks Mike for confirming. I've tried that also. The receiver can't be found but its led are as said before.. green dimmed, red on. Will try again tomorrow, had put the laptop to sleep.. it was a pain to get winblows ready again.. after the so many updates, alerts and sluggishness.

[MikeB]

Do try plugging the Rx in several times when at the "Finding device" stage. The Rx only looks for a short time on power up for something trying to flash it. Windows timing for sending the data is not that good. Another reason why I put the update code into ersky9x. The Taranis actually gets to the "Finding device" stage, then powers the receiver on via the module power connection and seems to work very reliably.

Mike.

[kalle123]

funkz, do as Mike wrote ...

It is a little tricky. Keep my fingers crossed! Waiting for your answer ...

br KH

[funkz]

#FAILED

I have tried (with the help of wunder kid) to connect as soon as the file is loaded, in sync, slightly after, before... repeat. No GO! for me.

KH, would you be so kind to try this at you end? At this point I loose nothing shipping this to you (Im based on the next country to the south). Besides I owe you a chocolate or swiss candy for your kind help. Let me know if possible so to get your address and send it tomorrow.

Buen domingo!

(the image show the eternal red led / green dimmed on the x6r while the FTDI blinks searching to find it.. on the background one can read the status of "finding device..." to flash.)

[kalle123]

Ooooooooooooo....

Just did an update for you now.

I am doing it on my linux computer in virtual box with a WIN XP.

That is the hardware. FTDI adapter and X6R

RED LED blinking (not in that pic, but in next pic LED RED is ON

Please notice the two lines RED and GREEN

Started frsky_update_Sport.exe, select the com port and load the firmware file X8R_150115.frk

Now came the tricky part. First I tried to disconnect shortly at the X6R RED LINE, 2 or 3 tries. No connection
(I have separate single dupont connectors, so it is not so easy ...)
Restart frsky_update_Sport.exe again and disconnected shortly at the GREEN LINE (at the FTDI). Connection at once!
Clicked DOWNLOAD (should normally read UPLOAD!?)

... from then on ... no problem. Update took ~ 2 minutes.

br KH ... and thank you for your kind offer, but I (retired, mechanical + marine engineer with zero knowledge of electronics ) am totally happy giving a hand here

[MikeB]

Another way of controlling the Rx startup is to connect only the SPort ground and signal, and have a battery with a switch on servo port. Get to "Finding device", then switch the Rx on.

Mike.

[funkz]

Oke, i will try to put this on a switch... but in the meantime, do you know is there's a way to determine if the receiver is not on a faulty hardware state regarding the never ever lit green LED, no matter what jumper channels, mode on the transmitter for binding, failsafe pushed or released.

I guess at this state is just flash or die.

One thing is for sure, the documentation provided will prove useful for updating and flashing this receivers.

[kalle123]

Connected to the FTDI, did the X6R RED LED blink?

"RED LED blinking (not in that pic, but in next pic LED RED is ON"

[funkz]

Connected to the FTDI, did the X6R RED LED blink?

"RED LED blinking (not in that pic, but in next pic LED RED is ON"

Nada, on my side the LEDs are _always_ on the same status, no matter what I connect, jump, attempt to connect.. always green is dimmed, red is ON.

[kalle123]

Hi funkz.

We tried a lot. Awfully sorry, we could not help. But don't throw the X6R away.

I have made the experience, that when you dump it in the trash box, a solution come up somehow (like a miracle) a little later

br from Germany - KH

[MikeB]

The best I can suggest now is to look very carefully at all the soldering, using as much magnification as you can, to check there are no poorly soldered connections anywhere.

Mike.

[jhsa]

I have made the experience, that when you dump it in the trash box, a solution come up somehow (like a miracle) a little later

br from Germany - KH

I hate to say this but you are so right..
I had kept an old damaged (magic smoke came out) D8R receiver for a couple of years in hope to fix it someday. Recently, as it happens every five years or so, I cleaned my workshop and threw it away. Kept the antennas
beginning of the year another old D8R was a victim of heavy experiments and obviously the magic smoke came out as well. This one I could also smell
But I have managed to repair it as my soldering skills improved due to processor changing on both my 9x radios and some other hardware.. so then I thought I could also repair the old one.. too late.. The rubbish truck had already gone.. a few months ago

João

[funkz]

hey all, again i'm nothing more than grateful for your time and attention and as relief, we can be sure this documentation will help others in the next future.

[kalle123]

I think, Mikes idea with a magnifying glass is a good idea.

Have a whole assortment here Watchmakers magnifying glasses 5x, 9x and 15x

br KH

[jhsa]

Another idea is to take a good resolution picture and look at it on the computer..

João

[spikey1973]

hey guys (and gals)

i'm not sure how dead this thread is but i'm stuck with a bad binding problem too.

Hey guys,

i have before me an x9e and an x6r reciever (pack).
I recently flashed both.. well today, but that won't be the case tomorrow... so recently anyway.. i got trouble binding them..

i flashed these versions:
tx: Version : x9e-v2.1.6
rx: Version : 151118 (LBT build)

seemed like the flashing went well, did some settings in the x9e and no problems so far. alsoboth Version are the latest ones.. 151118 is definately the eu lbt Version. But x9e-v2.1.6 is a both Version Pack.. so how can i be sure which loaded? Maybe this ends up being a eu /non eu Version problem. I expect eu as my tx is supposed to be eu.. (bought as). anyway i did not set up to change from eu to non-eu.

Settings used:
-d16 mode (al though others are available)
-bind mode started via tx (annoying beep)
-pressed the f/s button. (felt it click)
-and powered up the reciever with an old sbec

so i powered the rx while pressing the f/s button. led burns red solid, not blinking) so no binding. as i used my old sbec the first time, i felt like a re flash wouldn't be so bad.. i did and it went well. this time i tried to power it with the power from the ext. module bay while i used the internal one to actually bind.
Red light blinked. this time (instead of solid) but no binding once again (checked by rebooting rx and tx.. and again powering it with external module.. anyway, i feel like i need a proper setup just to power the rx for now and in the future... do i really need a bec for this or would any 5v power supply be oke? (prosume it to be 5v)

so i have some questions on this.
1) but first, does any idea what could be the case here? maybe dead signal line?
2) anyway do i need any signal line for binding or would any 5v source of dc be oke?
3) could it be flash version related? both latest versions, but its hard to find if they fit together..
4) how do i figure if the problem is on rx or tx side.

both are new, and came together..so i never binded any one of these.

i didn't use a jumper as i want telemetry mode 5, which apparently doesn't need a jumper.
An idea's on this? mak's post got me a little freaked,but fortunately it is now blinking again..
also got an x4r on the way. and i don't wanna wreck both rx's

Kind greatz

Matthieu

[jdevroed]

Hi all
I have the exact same problem, with an X9Dplus.
tx: Version : X9DP_2.1.6
rx: Version : X8RX6R_eu_150602.frk

Tried all sorts of ways...Tx in Binding before applying power to the Rx, afterwards...

Any help would be appreciated
Thx
Jeroen

[bob195558]

Did you purchase Taranis-Plus and Receivers together in the EU ?
Is this your first time trying to bind between your Taranis-Plus and this X8R and X6R receivers ?

Bob B.

[jdevroed]

Hi Bob,
Taranis came from Amazon.de, has a sticker on it that says LBT EU
X6R comes from HobbyKing (can be from whole globe), but invoice says EU version.
But they've been flashed, cause they didn't want to bind for starters
Thx for picking this up...in the mean time I managed to program my LEDs.

What remains before my selfbuilt quad shall fly: the gps and the fpv goggles

Jeroen

[bob195558]

Then you live in the EU ?
EU is not compatible with the rest of the world.
EU FrSky dose not bind with rest of the world FrSky Transmitters / Receivers .

Bob B.

[jdevroed]

Hi Bob,

I am aware of that, and so I think I used 2 EU firmwares for the devices, and so, I would expect them to connect.

I have asked FrSky to send me 2 collaborating firmwares, but no reply yet

Thx

Jeroen

[bob195558]

May be able to find EU firmwares here: (http://frsky-rc.com/product/).

Bob B.

[Ghostman132]

I finally figure this out.

I needed to flash different area (EU to international) firmware to my new RX. The original firmware did flash the red light while binding prosess was ongoing. However, due to the incompatible firmware between my TX(international) and RX(EU) it was not possible to bind them. I flashed X8R receiver with newest firmware with right area type from Frsky website and after update both red and green lights were solid on. This is not a fault signal! They have changed the light logic so that in bind mode both lights are bright solid. I updated my TX OS(firmware) and Bootloader. Still I did not manage to bind to the RX. Then I found out that there was a firmware for TX MODULE also. After updating that one I did managed to bind the new RX. But I also the old RX module with old firmware stopped working. So after updating that also, I did manage to get it working also.

So all in all. Keep all things updated (OS, Bootloader, TX module firmware and RX module firmware) to the same level and areacode. Otherwise they don't work.