Taranis Gimals in a 9X
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Mod Taranis Gimbal to a three axis Gimbal, see here: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=8917).
How to, see here: (https://alofthobbies.com/files/DIY3AXIS.pdf).
How to, see here: (https://alofthobbies.com/files/DIY3AXIS.pdf).
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
I said before that these mods are only worth it or intended to those guys who have a 9x already and want to give it a "new life". Otherwise, comparing prices, the taranis should be the option for those planning to buy the first tx. Plain and simple. A moded 9x will cost more than a taranis.Nadim wrote: ...that is, 60 bucks for the TX itself plus 130 for the above = 190 bucks for a Taranized 9x. If you think that the next thing I'd love to do is to add sliders... well... I'll just keep the 9x as it is and save the money for the Horus.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Nor necessarilyOctavioS wrote:Nadim wrote: A moded 9x will cost more than a taranis.
And as far as i'm concerned, apart from the bigger display, it will be a better radio than the Taranis..
But that depends on everyone's taste of course..
You have for example a very cheap replacement board for the 9x that is quite powerful, and does a very good job..
A Taranis radio is not very cheap anymore.. In fact, Frsky stuff is getting more and more expensive.. It is good stuff though.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Still, its not worth buying a 9x with the purpose to mod it, although i agree that these boards and mods are very welcome for those who already own one.jhsa wrote: Nor necessarily
João
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
As I said, in my opinion depends on what you want.. I personally can't stand the Taranis programming buttons so I wouldn't have one even if it did cost the same as the 9x. I would much easier buy a 9xr-pro,even with inferior gimbals.
I also find the taranis quite limited hardwarewise. it is not a radio made to be modded, so it won't be easy to implement some of the features that could work on some other platforms.
By the way, with the new ArUni board, people are even buying other old(ish) radios to mod with ersky9x or opentx.. Doesn't even need to be a 9x radio anymore. people are modding old Futabas, JR, Sanwa, Spektrum, etc.
It was designed to take open source firmware to other platforms that otherwise would be scrapped , and it is under $30
There are loads of possibilities..
Of course if people do not want to mod anything, then the Taranis is a possibility..
João
I also find the taranis quite limited hardwarewise. it is not a radio made to be modded, so it won't be easy to implement some of the features that could work on some other platforms.
By the way, with the new ArUni board, people are even buying other old(ish) radios to mod with ersky9x or opentx.. Doesn't even need to be a 9x radio anymore. people are modding old Futabas, JR, Sanwa, Spektrum, etc.
It was designed to take open source firmware to other platforms that otherwise would be scrapped , and it is under $30
There are loads of possibilities..
Of course if people do not want to mod anything, then the Taranis is a possibility..
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Hi all,
im a bit confused here. yesterday i tried to rewire the taranis 9x gimbals to make the connection right so i didnt have to use the reversed stick feature in the hardware menu. My 9x had both horizontal gimbals reversed, so by excluding parts, i rewired this wire with that wire and powered the radio to see if it was ok. The problem is that just by rewiring the horizontal gimbal wires, thet gimbal became completely reversed, what made me really confused, i wasnt expecting that just those 3 wires can make the whole gimbal reversed and becomes a real gamble to make the right choice.
BTW i changed the 3 9x pots with the taranis ones and everything works fine. You just need to make the hole a tiny bit wider and its plug and play, just follow the colors and it should be fine.
im a bit confused here. yesterday i tried to rewire the taranis 9x gimbals to make the connection right so i didnt have to use the reversed stick feature in the hardware menu. My 9x had both horizontal gimbals reversed, so by excluding parts, i rewired this wire with that wire and powered the radio to see if it was ok. The problem is that just by rewiring the horizontal gimbal wires, thet gimbal became completely reversed, what made me really confused, i wasnt expecting that just those 3 wires can make the whole gimbal reversed and becomes a real gamble to make the right choice.
BTW i changed the 3 9x pots with the taranis ones and everything works fine. You just need to make the hole a tiny bit wider and its plug and play, just follow the colors and it should be fine.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
So, you reversed aileron and rudder, and as a result elevator and throttle became also reversed?
Check you didn't reverse them in software.
What firmware by the way?
João
Check you didn't reverse them in software.
What firmware by the way?
João
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
More or less. When i was changing the wires of the aileron, the elevator became reversed. before i stardet that, i went to the hardware menu and deactivated the feature.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Strange that you reverse the aileron and the elevator becomes reversed without you touching it
I don't have an explanation for that..
João
I don't have an explanation for that..
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Is it possible, that the elevator pot is fed from the aileron pot with voltage and ground, so when you swap the wires going to aileron, elevator voltages will be swapped also ?
Reinhard
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
That is a possibility
Octávio, please check your installation.. Did you feed the VCC and GND from one pot to the other?
João
Octávio, please check your installation.. Did you feed the VCC and GND from one pot to the other?
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
No, not me, only if that happens on the pcb where the wires go to radio side.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
where did you reverse the VCC and GND on the Aileron pot? On the gimbal itself?
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Did you use a Multimeter and label your 9x radio wires.
+ 5 volts, Ground and Center-Signal wires.
The 9x wire colors mean nothing to the Chinese.
I have had trouble with this before too and now I use my Multimeter every time I do the Taranis Gimbals upgrade.
Bob B.
+ 5 volts, Ground and Center-Signal wires.
The 9x wire colors mean nothing to the Chinese.
I have had trouble with this before too and now I use my Multimeter every time I do the Taranis Gimbals upgrade.
Bob B.
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octavios
I didn't. I was just supposing it might be shared on the radio pcb where the wires go from the gimbal.jhsa wrote:where did you reverse the VCC and GND on the Aileron pot? On the gimbal itself?
João
Last edited by OctavioS on Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
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octavios
How do I do that? I have to keep the battery plugged with the radio open?bob195558 wrote:Did you use a Multimeter and label your 9x radio wires.
+ 5 volts, Ground and Center-Signal wires.
The 9x wire colors mean nothing to the Chinese.
I have had trouble with this before too and now I use my Multimeter every time I do the Taranis Gimbals upgrade.
Bob B.
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Frsky Taranis & Taranis +;
Horus x10s;
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Not necessarily, you can check continuity between the +5V pin on the regulator and the pot, and do the same for ground.
João
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So, if you didn't, how did you reverse the aileron stick? What have you done?OctavioS wrote:I didn't. I was just supposing it might be shared on the radio pcb where the wires go from the gimbal.jhsa wrote:where did you reverse the VCC and GND on the Aileron pot? On the gimbal itself?
João
Sorry if I sound confused, that is because I am.
After all, did you, or did you not reverse the aileron stick connections? How?
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Re: octavios
What did you actually do then? Nothing of this makes sense.OctavioS wrote: I didn't. I was just supposing it might be shared on the radio pcb where the wires go from the gimbal.
Pics and description of what you did on what might help.
Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
@Kilrah
@jhsa
Ok, sorry for the confusion, i will start from the beggining.
1- When i first assembled the taranis gimbals in the 9x a few months ago, the result was that rudder and aileron were inverted, so i had to use the feature in the hardware menu to fix.
2 - Since João managed to assemble the same gimbals and didnt had to use the feature in the hardware menu because none of the gimbals (THR - RUD/ELE - AIL) were inverted, i tried doing the same.
3 - When i tried to doing it, since there are 3 wire/color combination, i thought i only had to swap wires a couple of times so i could get the right polarity and they were'nt inverted anymore.
4 - What i found out is that by swaping the wires, all the directions, ELE/AIL in this case, became inverted just by swaping the wires assigned to the aileron and that's why i asked for help.
Besides doing this i havent done anything else.
I wil check the wires and post pictures just to confirm if i accidentally connected the wrong wires.
@jhsa
Ok, sorry for the confusion, i will start from the beggining.
1- When i first assembled the taranis gimbals in the 9x a few months ago, the result was that rudder and aileron were inverted, so i had to use the feature in the hardware menu to fix.
2 - Since João managed to assemble the same gimbals and didnt had to use the feature in the hardware menu because none of the gimbals (THR - RUD/ELE - AIL) were inverted, i tried doing the same.
3 - When i tried to doing it, since there are 3 wire/color combination, i thought i only had to swap wires a couple of times so i could get the right polarity and they were'nt inverted anymore.
4 - What i found out is that by swaping the wires, all the directions, ELE/AIL in this case, became inverted just by swaping the wires assigned to the aileron and that's why i asked for help.
Besides doing this i havent done anything else.
I wil check the wires and post pictures just to confirm if i accidentally connected the wrong wires.
Last edited by OctavioS on Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Where did you invert the wires?
Actually, how did you connect the taranis gimbal's wires in first place?
Did you just cut the 9x wires and connect the tarasnis gimbal's wires to them?
Did you solder them to the "Trims" PCB?
Without knowing exactly what you did to install the gimbals, we won't be able to help you.. As Kilrah said above, a couple pictures could hellp..
João
Actually, how did you connect the taranis gimbal's wires in first place?
Did you just cut the 9x wires and connect the tarasnis gimbal's wires to them?
Did you solder them to the "Trims" PCB?
Without knowing exactly what you did to install the gimbals, we won't be able to help you.. As Kilrah said above, a couple pictures could hellp..
João
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Hi OctavioS,
In the hidden Hardware (Radio Settings) menu you can set your
Taranis Gimbals to have there proper stick movements (stick direction). This is what these settings are for, you may not have had to change your Gimbals wiring
as it was OK in the first place ?
Bob B.
In the hidden Hardware (Radio Settings) menu you can set your
Taranis Gimbals to have there proper stick movements (stick direction). This is what these settings are for, you may not have had to change your Gimbals wiring
as it was OK in the first place ?
Bob B.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Bob, he knows that But he wants to connect the gimbals so he doesn't need to invert them in the software
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
OK then I believe, swapping the radio's +5V wire with the radio's GND wire connections will change stick direction
for the afflicted sticks.
I believe the Taranis Gimbal pots are wired
Yellow is the center signal wire
Red is the +5V wire
Black is the GND wire
The 9x radio gimbals wire colors do not have anything to do with what they are.
You should check them with a Multimeter and label them so you will be able to know what they are
when making there connections.
And yes, I did power up the 9x radio, with it opened up (with all the wires connected) when checking for what each of the
three Gimbal wire are and then labeled them.
I have so far when doing the Gimbal Upgrade, have used the Radio Hardware Gimbals settings to correct stick direction.
I did not want to invest more time into re-soldering the Gimbal wire.
Bob B.
for the afflicted sticks.
I believe the Taranis Gimbal pots are wired
Yellow is the center signal wire
Red is the +5V wire
Black is the GND wire
The 9x radio gimbals wire colors do not have anything to do with what they are.
You should check them with a Multimeter and label them so you will be able to know what they are
when making there connections.
And yes, I did power up the 9x radio, with it opened up (with all the wires connected) when checking for what each of the
three Gimbal wire are and then labeled them.
I have so far when doing the Gimbal Upgrade, have used the Radio Hardware Gimbals settings to correct stick direction.
I did not want to invest more time into re-soldering the Gimbal wire.
Bob B.
Last edited by bob195558 on Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
But isnt there a ground wire for AIL/ELE separately?
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Yes, there are three wires for each Gimbal pot and they are be twisted together for each pot (AIL, ELE and Rud, Thr). Bob B.OctavioS wrote:But isnt there a ground wire for AIL/ELE separately?
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3D-Printing: (https://openrcforums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=129).
Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
any of you know if they sell new pots for the 9x? i tried to open and clean my friends elevator as it was acting up, seems the pot is all worn out, does Taranis sell replacement parts?
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Spektrum DX6i - 20 year experience in glider design and RC pilot
too many toys - sleep eat fly repeat - professional falconer
rc gliders
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- bob195558
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
See here for FrSky Taranis Replacement Gimbals that are a great upgrade for the 9x:
https://alofthobbies.com/frsky-taranis- ... imbal.html
Note: you will need to use a multimeter
to make sure you have connected the correct wires,
because with the 9x radio's, the wire color means nothing.
https://alofthobbies.com/frsky-taranis- ... imbal.html
Note: you will need to use a multimeter
to make sure you have connected the correct wires,
because with the 9x radio's, the wire color means nothing.
Er9x on 9x radio, with Smartieparts Programmer and TelemetrEZ Board.
ErSky9x on Taranis, Sky9x, 9Xtreme radios.
3D-Printing: (https://openrcforums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=129).
ErSky9x on Taranis, Sky9x, 9Xtreme radios.
3D-Printing: (https://openrcforums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=129).
- bob195558
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Re: Taranis Gimals in a 9X
Also see here for more install info: viewtopic.php?f=95&t=4281&start=90#p66589
Er9x on 9x radio, with Smartieparts Programmer and TelemetrEZ Board.
ErSky9x on Taranis, Sky9x, 9Xtreme radios.
3D-Printing: (https://openrcforums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=129).
ErSky9x on Taranis, Sky9x, 9Xtreme radios.
3D-Printing: (https://openrcforums.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=129).