How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by planger » Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:54 am

Just wanted to share my setup:
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We've got a good link up to 4 meters with 2 x 9XR Pro setup the same way.

While I was there I've added 2 push buttons to my 9XR Pro. I'm using these buttons for functions like flip or things like this. I've used the 6 pos switch option.
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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:17 am

Nice.. On mine, I have eliminated the stock PCB antenna and soldered a Dipole antenna. I had very good range, more than 20 meters at the field, between my pro and another radio with a BT and a frsky rx antenna :D but sometimes would interfere with the telemetry. So, I downgraded my BT dongle to a normal frsky rx antenna. And that is what I use on my radios now. Only one still has a dipole. I might keep it that way and use it only as the student radio :)

I still didn't get to install push buttons on my pro.. there are other mods I also want to do to it.. I did install 4 push buttons on the back of 2 of my 9x radios. One with 9xtreme board, and the other with an Ar9x board.. See picture.

Another mod that will be done is actually a little project of mine that I have been testing since a few weeks now, and it will be installed on all my radios, except the 9xtreme that already has it.
It is an RF module soft power switch, so we can easily turn both modules (internal and external) ON or OFF, depending on the active model. This is particularly useful if you use multi modules ;)
Mike of course implemented OFF settings for both PPM1 and PPM2. Thank you so much for that as it made this possible..
Will post details in a near future. Here is the project thread

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by With » Wed May 18, 2016 10:53 am

uhmmm , how do you connect to the actual Pro's motherboard , Com 3 ?

Referring specifically to what type of plug is used on Com3 .? can I get similar plug somewhere :?:

I looked through all my cables and nothing seems to fit , using a servo lead type connector also does not seem to make proper contact (or does it?) ... how did you guys connect to Com3 ?

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Wed May 18, 2016 12:00 pm

Yes on the pro is com 3.
The connector is something like this

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by With » Wed May 18, 2016 12:24 pm

ahh , thanks jhsa ... that's what I need then.


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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by Romushock » Tue May 31, 2016 7:07 pm

Hi, Joao,
I've try hook up BT mod to AR9x board, but got this:
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Mine is HC-05, but has a different baseplate:
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I don't cut KEY track going to BT:
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Connect it into COM3 port, Tx-Rx, Rx-Tx, GND, 5V (baseplate has an 3.3V stab) and CHIP ERASE pins:
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I've try 5- and 4-wire (without KEY-CHIP ERASE wire) connection - BT's LED blink, but Tx don't see module.
My question is: must I configure BT mod by AT commands before use? It's my old module used with ArduCopter, I've change name to "hexa", baud rate... not, but I'm not sure... Any hint is appreciated... :roll:

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Tue May 31, 2016 8:24 pm

Are you sure that module is a HC-05?
I think I have never seen one like that..

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Tue May 31, 2016 8:47 pm

Can you check with a multimeter that the pad where your yellow wire is soldered connects to the BT module's pin 34??

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by Romushock » Tue May 31, 2016 9:22 pm

Yes, module is HC-05. Pin 34 connected to KEY pad. I begin to doubt about baud rate... Will check it tomorrow...
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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Tue May 31, 2016 9:36 pm

The radio should configure the baud rate as well..
the setting to set the Bluetooth baud rate is in Radio Setup/General. It should be set to 115200

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by Romushock » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:03 am

Damn, it has KEY pad connected to pin 34 AND pin 26. And when I've rename it some years ago, remember it was recognized as linvor device. So it's HC-06... Nothing to do... Or may be useful however? And also - can HC-05 be configured by Tx: baud, name, role, or only by PC?

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by MikeB » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:17 am

Yes, a HC-05 may have those parameters set from the Tx.

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Thu Jun 02, 2016 9:23 am

I think the HC-06 could be used for telemetry only.
But in my opinion just get a HC-05. They are so cheap. ;) :)

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by Romushock » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:31 pm

Thks, guys, just payed 3 boards for 10€... Santa pazienza...

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:34 pm

Romushock wrote:Thks, guys, just payed 3 boards for 10€...
Not a bad price..
Santa pazienza...
Yep, we must wait a long time until we get our stuff sometimes :o :o :D

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by Romushock » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:13 pm

Hi Joao, they arrived and works! :D
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I've cut EN track, bent pin and solder it to button pad.
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I did not try yet to pair Tx to others, but i'm pretty sure that all would be OK. Really, it's possible to play with BT settings by Tx. Thanks a lot for a help ;)

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:32 pm

Hey, glad it's working :) Well done. ;) :D

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by DavisMN » Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:08 pm

I'm a noob and awaiting my GPS module from China. I have a 9xrPro with Frsky JR-XJT module and have updated to 218 so far.

I've been reading a lot and have a couple of questions.

What range can be experienced for trainer mode with the Frsky antenna soldered to the bluetooth?

Is there a picture showing the location of the antenna with this mod?

Thanks, (a different) Mike

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:32 pm

Still not much range. But it depends where you put the antenna.
It should be a 90º to your XJT antenna.
I have one with a dipole antenna and the range is better, but I'm not sure yet what effects it could have on the frsky equipment.
With just a receiver antenna the range is enough if both student and teacher stay together..
You can't see it in the pictures because when I took them I still hadn't soldered the other antenna, but it is hot glued to the inside of the radio's case. Not in the battery compartment.

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by SuperflyFPV » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:38 pm

Could you use this to connect your controller to your PC? The purpose would be to use bluetooth for simulator so no more annoying cables.

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:59 pm

Not at the moment, But it would be nice ;) I would also be happy with a USB Joystick on Skyboard type boards, the same as on the 9xtreme radio ;) :)
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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by Kilrah » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:00 pm

The PC doesn't know how to use Bluetooth as a joystick. If you want wireless the easiest way is to use an RC receiver with PPM output and a PPM joystick USB interface.

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:30 am

hmmm, maybe having a wireless Wi-Fi dongle installed in the radio instead of bluetooth ;) That would also open a few other doors, while keeping the existing functions :)

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by Kilrah » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:16 am

Doesn't help towards the original concern though, there are no network->joystick bridging solutions for the PC.

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Re: How to install and configure Trainer over Bluetooth..

Post by jhsa » Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:03 am

When there is a will there is always a way. I have learnt that since the time evrybody was saying that voice on the 9x radio wouldn't be possible. :)

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