Rob Thomson wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:02 am
I have to disagree with you.
Your view point is typical of the view held by those who do not fly fpv. Unfortunately it is flawed with lack of fpv experience.
My view point is typical of the view held by those who sit their back side on a real flying machine
I would like to do FPV as well some day (Too expensive for me), but I would stay low and would not fly in places where real aircraft fly. That is the difference between good FPV and bad FPV. Unfortunately because of the guys that do not understand this and do not have respect for the lives of the people flying up there (you see that every day on youtube), FPV needs to be regulated, and the people that do not stick with those rules should be heavily punished. This is NOT A VIDEO GAME. There are real people flying up there. Of course rules do have to be fair.
Regarding depth perspective.
With fpv you have no more and no less than with a normal aircraft.
To understand this you need to realise that depth perception is only something that occurs when close to the ground. If you are in a full size aircraft.. And gain altitude.. The world flattens. Why? Because depth perception is only effective at shorter distance.
You will also find that a large amount of depth perception is actually based around an pre understanding of the size of other objects. So.. You know that a plain is of x size therefore you can extrapolate out roughly how far away it is. This has been found as a source of issue many times in near misses. Pilots have assumed that what they are looking at is a certain size.. But get it horribly wrong.
Rob, you are absolutely right, and let me tell you, you agree 100% with me then. Please read my post above.
I said exactly that pilots or FPV'ers do not have depth perception when in the same airspace as other aircraft.
That is why pilots need to be in contact with air traffic control ( have a radio on board), have a transponder on the aircraft so it sends its position to the ATC (Air Traffic Control), and have a pilot's licence, which means you are certified to use the airspace and know how to use it (Know the rules of the air).
This is what it takes to deal with the lack of depth perception up there.
So if you as an FPVer want to use the same airspace, you will have to do it under the same rules for it to be safe. You will have to let the other aircraft know what is your position at any time of your flight. You will have to be able to listen and to contact the controllers of the airspace you're flying in.
Now.. Let me ask you one more very key question on depth perception.
What happens when you have only one functional eye? Does that mean you have no depth perception and should not be allowed a private pilots license? Or how about.. A driving licence?
I have about 10% vision in one eye. Yet I can catch balls. Drive. Fly.. Anything. But apparently as two eyes are needed for depth perception I should theoretically not be able to see how far things are away? Why do I have no problem with any of this and can hold my own in accurately determining how far away objects are?
Because depth perception is not as depended on two eyes functioning as one might think.
My answer is the same as above. You have help from ATC to keep you out of the other aircraft's way and vice-versa, you have radio on the aircraft.
And you will have a pilot's license if your medical disability does allow you to be able to fly an aircraft safely..
Now.. What I can tell you when flying fpv. You always always find the spotter telling you carefull you will hit something. Yet the fpv flyer can see full well that you will not hit it. Why? The fpv flyer is in a better position go judge position and direction of flight as his eyes and trajectory stimulations are all in the airframe he is flying.
Rob, now you are just contradicting what you said above. You just said that when someone is up there, a pilot for example, does not a very good depth perception, and now you say that when flying FPV you can see very well what you will hit or not hit? Are you saying that when you do FPV you have a better perception of what is around you than a real pilot on a real aircraft that has 3D perception?
We just agreed above that depth perception is a big problem when up there
If that was the case, real pilots would all be flying with goggles by now
Well, let me tell you something, if something is coming at you up there, whether you are in a real aircraft or doing FPV, you will probably only see it when it is already too late. Again, that is the reason we have ATC, and radio communications with them.. To avoid collisions. And even like that, sometimes they still happen unfortunately.
The spotter on the ground is not able to achieve this level of accuracy as they are well out of effective ability to rely on their own depth perception.
You see, you have just agreed with me again
I also said on my post above that despite the spotter's lack of altitude perception due to the lack of depth perception, he/she can see better what is coming at you, and in case of doubt about the altitude you should move out of its path IMMEDIATELY anyway. Of course we are talking about smaller manned aircraft here. You would know if a jumbo Jet is at your altitude. And if that happened you wouldn't have time to react. That is why you need air traffic control to keep you out of its way, or the other out of your way
(this sounds good, doesn't it)
A spotter on the ground has a better view of the airspace than anyone else viewing it from up there, you believe it or not.
Resuming, you want to FPV where the other aircraft fly? Sure, make sure your aircraft and yourself
are under the same rules, and have the same avoidance equipment as all the other aircraft..
Otherwise, stay low, and away from airfields and airports..