Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Hi
I'm trying to source hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro.
I know of quanum 3 axis gimbals on hobbyking site but it's out of stock for a long time and I couldn't find them on other places like ebay.
I also saw the posts about the m9 gimbals but I understand there is a resolution issue with them.
Are there any other hall sensor gimbals that would fit the 9xr pro?
Thanks
I'm trying to source hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro.
I know of quanum 3 axis gimbals on hobbyking site but it's out of stock for a long time and I couldn't find them on other places like ebay.
I also saw the posts about the m9 gimbals but I understand there is a resolution issue with them.
Are there any other hall sensor gimbals that would fit the 9xr pro?
Thanks
Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
There shouldn't be any resolution issue with the 9XR-PRO. The gimbals work at 3.3V, the same as the PRO uses for its own gimbals.. Now, I don't know about the mechanic side.. I have the feeling I already read about someone installing those gimbals in some other radio.. Not sure if it was a 9XR-PRO radio. Please do a little search..
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Replacement/Upgrade Gimbals for Taranis, Sky9x, Ar9X, 9Xtreme and 9XR-Pro radios, is the New FrSky M9 Hall Effect Gimbals.
See here for more info:
Turnigy 9x + 9 Extreme board + M9 Hall sensor Gimbals: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=9943&p=124857&hili ... or+Gimbals).
New FrSky Hall Effect Gimbals: (viewtopic.php?f=126&t=9674&p=123960&hil ... or+Gimbals).
M9 Hall effect Gimbals: (viewtopic.php?f=122&t=9683).
Magnetic Gimbals for x9d & x9dp: (viewtopic.php?f=97&t=9609&hilit=M9+Hall+Sensor+Gimbals).
Search for Replacement 9x Potentiometers!: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=2974&hilit=M9+Hall+Sensor+Gimbals).
Bob B.
See here for more info:
Turnigy 9x + 9 Extreme board + M9 Hall sensor Gimbals: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=9943&p=124857&hili ... or+Gimbals).
New FrSky Hall Effect Gimbals: (viewtopic.php?f=126&t=9674&p=123960&hil ... or+Gimbals).
M9 Hall effect Gimbals: (viewtopic.php?f=122&t=9683).
Magnetic Gimbals for x9d & x9dp: (viewtopic.php?f=97&t=9609&hilit=M9+Hall+Sensor+Gimbals).
Search for Replacement 9x Potentiometers!: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=2974&hilit=M9+Hall+Sensor+Gimbals).
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Bob, we don't know yet if the new M9 gimbals fit the 9XR-PRO. That is what we are trying to find out..
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Hi João,
True, and because the regular Taranis Gimbals have been fitted (modded to fit) into
the 9XR-Pro radio cases, I think these M9 Gimbals can be modded to fit also.
It seem most venders have the M9 Gimbals on back-order for now and seem to
run about $8 more per Gimbal then the regular Taranis Gimbals.
I believe someone, some where is going to do it, as they look to be smaller
then the standard Taranis Gimbals. For other hall effect gimbals I think Ronen would need to make them like I believe you have done
with the older 9x gimbals (not sure you have modded 9XR-Pro into hall effect gimbals).
There is no resolution issue with M9 Gimbals when using them with the 9XR-Pro, Sky9x, Ar9X and 9Xtreme radios.
Bob B.
Add edit Feb 27, 2017:
More info about 9XR-Pro / 9XR Radios upgrade to the Taranis Gimbals !
See how here: 9XR-PRO Hacks and Fixes at: (viewtopic.php?f=122&t=5657&p=99382#p99332) Part 1 and Part 2.
Video: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixeQ7FYjSPM)
Other 9XR Gimbals replacements here: (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... _39_s.html)
and (viewtopic.php?f=122&t=8269).
True, and because the regular Taranis Gimbals have been fitted (modded to fit) into
the 9XR-Pro radio cases, I think these M9 Gimbals can be modded to fit also.
It seem most venders have the M9 Gimbals on back-order for now and seem to
run about $8 more per Gimbal then the regular Taranis Gimbals.
I believe someone, some where is going to do it, as they look to be smaller
then the standard Taranis Gimbals. For other hall effect gimbals I think Ronen would need to make them like I believe you have done
with the older 9x gimbals (not sure you have modded 9XR-Pro into hall effect gimbals).
There is no resolution issue with M9 Gimbals when using them with the 9XR-Pro, Sky9x, Ar9X and 9Xtreme radios.
Bob B.
Add edit Feb 27, 2017:
More info about 9XR-Pro / 9XR Radios upgrade to the Taranis Gimbals !
See how here: 9XR-PRO Hacks and Fixes at: (viewtopic.php?f=122&t=5657&p=99382#p99332) Part 1 and Part 2.
Video: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixeQ7FYjSPM)
Other 9XR Gimbals replacements here: (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... _39_s.html)
and (viewtopic.php?f=122&t=8269).
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Thanks. I'll do some more reading, Thanks for the links and info
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
I found a store that has the m9 gimbals in stock, couldn't find anyone who did this mod on the 9xr pro so I'm volunteering to be the 1st one [emoji121] . Just to be sure before I order, they are electronically compatible and I just need to fit them in right?
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Yes they are ! See here for your answer: (viewtopic.php?f=126&t=9674&p=123960&hil ... ls#p123503).
Bob B.MikeB wrote:Note that the SKY board, AR9X board, 9Xtreme and 9XR-PRO are all 3.3V based and only supply 3.3V to the gimbal pots.
Mike.
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Be careful with the polarity.. They ARE NOT like pots that can be connected with reversed polarity. If you reverse the polarity on the hall sensors you will probably damage them.
Just keep this in mind
João
Just keep this in mind
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
M9 Gimbals installed into 9x radio case: (viewtopic.php?p=126398#p125297).
Bob B.MikeB wrote: ↑Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:29 pm Take care to check the supply and ground connections. The pots on the existing gimbals are OK if you get the power and ground swapped, but I suspect the hall effect devices would get damaged if that happens. (And don't rely on the existing wire colours, they seem to be a bit "random").
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
I guess I missed that post (with the pictures) Thanks.
I'm pretty good with my hands and I'm sure I can fit them ok, but the polarity issue has got me worried now, couldn't understand how to manage that. I already installed pr10 with no problem but I had youtube to help me. Anyway I'm ordering and hope you guys could help me with the wiring when I get there.
Thanks,
Ronen
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I'm pretty good with my hands and I'm sure I can fit them ok, but the polarity issue has got me worried now, couldn't understand how to manage that. I already installed pr10 with no problem but I had youtube to help me. Anyway I'm ordering and hope you guys could help me with the wiring when I get there.
Thanks,
Ronen
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Ronen, please stop posting duplicates of your post.. I already approved your post, no need to keep re-posting the same thing. I have better stuff to do than deleting duplicates
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Man I'm sorry for that.. Didn't know that posts has to be approved, when I didn't see my post I tought something went wrong and re posted. Won't happen again.
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No problem.. Your first few posts (5 I think) need approval. This is an Anti-Spam measure.. In a couple posts you won't need approval anymore
Enjoy the forum, you are very welcome here
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Hehe thanks [emoji2]
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Yes, we can help walking you through making the correct wire connections.
I do not have a 9XR-Pro, but I believe João, who knows the 9XR-Pro very well,
will be happy to help too.
With the 9x radio's the color of the wires mean nothing and needs
be checked with a multimeter to verify which wire is Ground and
which wire is Power to there gimbals potentiometer connections.
I am not sure about the color wiring in the 9XR-Pro radios and to be on the safe-side
may be best that you check with a multimeter (label your wires) before you disconnect
your old gimbal wires.
Bob B.
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Thanks! I made an order yesterday from horusrc. Hope it will get here soon
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Have a 9xR pro 3 axis gimbal in my Futaba 9c and the rudder, twist, just stopped working on one side? In reading prior entries, sounds like the Hall sensor quit working? (It does seem odd that it will work in one direction but not the other?) Would simply order another stick assembly from HK but they're out of them so, leads me to try to figure this one out? Any ideas about how I can trouble shoot it?
Thanks,
Cubnuts
Thanks,
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Hi cubnuts,
The Quanum 3 Axis Gimbal Upgrade (for 9XR-Pro) uses a magnetic hall effect sensor for each of the three Gimbal axis.
(viewtopic.php?f=122&t=8269)
Can you open-up your radio and look for broken wires ?
Maybe you could check (use a multimeter) to check the voltages to the problem (Twist/Rudder) magnetic hall effect sensor.
I do not know what your Futaba 9c radio voltages are in its Gimbal circuits.
You may be able to find what the magnetic hall effect sensor is and purchase one to replace, if it is bad.
Bob B.
The Quanum 3 Axis Gimbal Upgrade (for 9XR-Pro) uses a magnetic hall effect sensor for each of the three Gimbal axis.
(viewtopic.php?f=122&t=8269)
Can you open-up your radio and look for broken wires ?
Maybe you could check (use a multimeter) to check the voltages to the problem (Twist/Rudder) magnetic hall effect sensor.
I do not know what your Futaba 9c radio voltages are in its Gimbal circuits.
You may be able to find what the magnetic hall effect sensor is and purchase one to replace, if it is bad.
Bob B.
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Never used that gimbal but, I think it expects a power supply of 3.3V. What is the voltage your futaba radio supplies to the sticks?cubnuts wrote: ↑Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:41 pm Have a 9xR pro 3 axis gimbal in my Futaba 9c and the rudder, twist, just stopped working on one side? In reading prior entries, sounds like the Hall sensor quit working? (It does seem odd that it will work in one direction but not the other?) Would simply order another stick assembly from HK but they're out of them so, leads me to try to figure this one out? Any ideas about how I can trouble shoot it?
Thanks,
Cubnuts
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It's an 8 cell nimh pack? Where should I put the probes to check the voltage at the stick? Had never considered that the voltage was incorrect for the stick?
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
We don't know if it is..
At every stick there are 3 wires. Positive, negative and signal. Measure between positive and negative, possibly red and black wires. Colors could be different though..
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Did your parts arrive yet ?
Im going to give this a go to as my 9xr gimbals are starting to stick. Would be great if you could note down what you do so i could follow along!
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Not yet.. Will try to take a pic of every step when I get them and upload to this postsynrgy wrote:Did your parts arrive yet ?
Im going to give this a go to as my 9xr gimbals are starting to stick. Would be great if you could note down what you do so i could follow along!
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
I got the gimbals they are larger then the pr10 and they cant fit inside as far as I can tell. I have posted some pics on the other thread with the 9x mod but I'll post here as well
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
An other thread: (viewtopic.php?p=126398#p125297).
To another thread: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=9977&p=129790#p129797).
To another thread: (viewtopic.php?f=95&t=9977&p=129790#p129797).
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
I wonder if the M7 Gimbals would be a better fit for the 9XR-Pro radios ?
(http://alofthobbies.com/m7-hall-effect-gimbal.html)
Could be the only difference from the M9 Gimbals may be the wiring for the Qx7.
Bob B.
(http://alofthobbies.com/m7-hall-effect-gimbal.html)
Could be the only difference from the M9 Gimbals may be the wiring for the Qx7.
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
Here is the dimension drawing for the M7 gimbals (courtesy of Aloft).bob195558 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:21 am I wonder if the M7 Gimbals would be a better fit for the 9XR-Pro radios ?
(http://alofthobbies.com/m7-hall-effect-gimbal.html)
Could be the only difference from the M9 Gimbals may be the wiring for the Qx7.
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Re: Hall sensor gimbals for the 9xr pro?
I have a 9XR Gimbal and the M9 Gimbal.
Eyeballing the 9XR and M9 Gimbals with Digital Caliper, the dimensions are different between them.
Note: Eyeballing measurements may not be accurate. M7: 62.0mm X 62.0mm / 48.4mm / 42.9mm X 54.0mm
M9: 62.1mm X 62.1mm / 48.1mm / 54.5mm X 54.5mm (Eyeballing measurements)
9XR: 56.7mm X 54.6mm / 47.4mm / 47.5mm X 46.0mm (Eyeballing measurements)
Eyeballing the 9XR and M9 Gimbals with Digital Caliper, the dimensions are different between them.
Note: Eyeballing measurements may not be accurate. M7: 62.0mm X 62.0mm / 48.4mm / 42.9mm X 54.0mm
M9: 62.1mm X 62.1mm / 48.1mm / 54.5mm X 54.5mm (Eyeballing measurements)
9XR: 56.7mm X 54.6mm / 47.4mm / 47.5mm X 46.0mm (Eyeballing measurements)
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