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As you know, Mike has been working on making er9x/ersky9x a bit more user friendly. Of course he always implements a few new features while he is at it :mrgreen:
One of these improvements is the way the firmware handles the Voice/audio alarms and haptic. Before we needed a combination of custom switches, voice switches and safety switches to program some voice, audio and haptic events. Now we have only one menu for all that. Yes one single Voice Alarm (needs another name) can do it all.
ersky9x also supports "NAMED" files from now on (latest test versions at the moment). 8 characters max excluding the file extension.
I made a voice pack with the files already named. you can find it here:

http://www.openrcforums.com/forum/downl ... hp?id=8467

Please don't change the folders order. Just place the files and folders inside the voice folder on the SD Card.

Also, I just made this little tutorial on how to use this new menu. I do apologise for my English, but it is not my mother language. Please find it attached to this post.
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João, your tutorial is excellent. There is absolutely no reason to apologize for your English skills. Your tutorial is organized well and thoroughly explained. I know you live and work in Germany so presumably you are fluent in German as well as your native Portuguese. I wish I could speak more than one language well.

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I second that! He is also fluent in techno-babble :)
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PNaz wrote:I know you live and work in Germany so presumably you are fluent in German as well as your native Portuguese.
Ha ha, I wish :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I wish I could speak more than one language well.
Me too. The more languages we speak, the less changes we have of speaking them well :lol:
I even start struggling with the Portuguese now.. :)

Steve, please feel free to change it, try the programming and do your magic with the words for including that in the manual when you feel it is a good time.. maybe after Mike actually release it would be a good idea :mrgreen:

Thank you guys, I'm just trying to help as always..

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Excellent work, and as a native "English only" speaker the language is fine, I could not have done better myself. This will help me a great deal as I start to set up my new 9XR Pro.

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Guys, don't forget this is only for the next release of the firmware..
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"Great job tragen auf der guten Arbeit" or should I say "Grande carry trabalho sobre o bom trabalho". Unfortunately both phrases come from Google I am afraid, I am a typical Older Brit with the language skills of a cockroach but a little better personality, I hope!

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hi guys .. how do you remove the old voice alerts.. I copied over my model and renamed it to speed things up but ALL switches etc have the original voice alerts I programmed in the mixer so when I add a voice alert via the new menu I get both alerts one after the other BUT the bit in the mixer where I added the voice originally is no longer there.. serve me right for taking a week away from my radio.. forgotten half what I learned already and the half I do remember has changed :)
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You don't program voice alerts in the mixer ;)
The old way was to program a custom switch to detect the telemetry value and then use it with a voice switch. You can find the voice switches in the safety switches menu.. so go to both the custom switches menu and the safety switches menu and delete the data that is no longer needed..

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OK well in the end I just redid a new model.. is there a newer version of eepskye for the mac Mike.. the one I ahve doesn't show the new voice switches at all.. managed to corrupt my new model and had to redo it completely when I saved changes using the older version of eepskye..
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There isn't support for the new voice alarms in eepskye yet. Remember this is still pretty much experimental and it wasn't released yet. YOU ARE USING A TEST VERSION. Do not forget about that little detail.. :)

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Sorry, no. I can't build the MAC version, I have to "sub-contract" it. So I have to commit the sources to googlecode, get the MAC version compiled and sent to me, then commit all the executables to google code, so I only do this when a release is ready.

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Ok yeh no problemo.. redid a new model and it worked fine except the low voltage alarm didn't work with the telemetry so my quad fell out the sky as I wasn't watching flying time.. cretin.. anyway installed the latest test version and when I try to set the value for voltage with A2 as the source v<val as the function I can't select the voltage I want..jumps from 7.6 to 15.3v .. how do I make it 14.2 or 13.6?
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don't make the cursor flash. just use left and right to change the value one by one.. clicking first to make the field flash makes it jump in big steps, for selecting a big number..
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Ok cool .. next weirdness.. telemetry bugs..I have two models saved.. my v-tail I have been flying for weeks where everything works fine including the low battery spoken warning.OK this model I created originally in v202 or v204 so I switch on radio, I get alarms disabled for some reason?? and all telemetry reading zero.Soon as I plug in the copter I get RX and TX % and RX and flight battery values. all correct..so everything works as it should. if I push the exit button the values zero for a second and bounce back..

OK so switch to newly created quadcopter model and telemetry values stay except TX becomes zero.no reaction to pressing exit button and if I switch radio off then on again I get no telemetry warning and nothing displays at all, even if I plug and unplug the quad.. no telemetry.. and I've been through every menu I can find and I cannot find a single difference anywhere. Mind you can't find that option I had before of choosing com port 2 either.. where has that gone?
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gizmatron wrote:OK this model I created originally in v202 or v204 so I switch on radio, I get alarms disabled for some reason??
I don't think I understand what you mean by alarms disabled? You mean that the alarms don't play anymore at startup? If so, then yes that was an improvement.. what is the point of having a "No Telemetry" alarm or even a voltage low alarm if you just turned the radio on and didn't even connect the power to the plane?
and all telemetry reading zero.Soon as I plug in the copter I get RX and TX % and RX and flight battery values. all correct..so everything works as it should. if I push the exit button the values zero for a second and bounce back..
I cannot reproduce that.. if I press the exit button, nothing happens..
OK so switch to newly created quadcopter model and telemetry values stay except TX becomes zero.no reaction to pressing exit button and if I switch radio off then on again I get no telemetry warning and nothing displays at all, even if I plug and unplug the quad.. no telemetry.. and I've been through every menu I can find and I cannot find a single difference anywhere.
If you unplug the quad and plug it back, you should get telemetry on the screen but no alarms. when you turn the quad off, you should get the "No Telemetry alarm" but any other alarm shouldn't play because if you lost telemetry, of course you lost everything else so it doesn't make any sense the radio tell you that the voltage is low..
Mind you can't find that option I had before of choosing com port 2 either.. where has that gone?
It is where it always was ;)
Telemetry 2 menu..
"Frsky Com Port"

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COM2 is selected on the TELEMETRY2 menu. You need to go down a long way to get to it, there are 4 'pages' of options and it is on the third 'page'. A new model will default to COM1.

Do all the telemetry values go to zero when you press the EXIT button, or just the small number under the large numbers?
The small numbers are minimum and maximum, pressing EXIT resets them.

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didn't know that :mrgreen: Always learning ;)


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OK first off yes mike it's just the min/max that zero so that's not a problem.. re the telemetry 2 DUH! I was using the shortcut menu where it says telemetry which doesn't allow you to access the telemetry 2 page, to get to that you have to scroll as before.. choose com2 port and I now have telemetry and a spoken low battery alert.Should help my quad not fall out the sky at 12v instead of landing at 13.8..when I unplug the quad I lose the TX value in telemetry but the A1,A2 and RX values remain on the screen at whatever level they were at. Is this normal? Not a problem just seems strange that one value should zero and not the others..

finally when the radio is turned on yes it's a huge improvement that it doesn't recite every voice alert switch position one after the other, however my comment was just that after the splash screen I get ALERT in big letters with alarms disabled underneath and press any key at the bottom. Again works fine just wondered if it's an intended thing or not.. Is it just referring to the disabling of the initial voice alerts/warnings etc or something else, ie can I just hit a button and ignore it :)

sorry for some stupidity re telemetry.. a week away from my radio during which I learnt bloody naza lite setup (c**p by the way it's being replaced rapido) and hours researching open source OSD's I forgot some simple stuff, and missed a couple of things with the new changes.

The new voice switches are sooooooo much simpler by the way. Even just using 3 for a 3pos switch is easier than the original way of duplicating voice files so as to use two "BOTH" functions.
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I also found my dumb error with the older v-tail model I had saved.. the original voice alerts were still there at the bottom of the safety switches menu.. I need to delete those if I want to use the new voice alarms menu otherwise they double play.. As they all work as they should I'm probably going to leave them alone for now.
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gizmatron wrote:re the telemetry 2 DUH! I was using the shortcut menu where it says telemetry which doesn't allow you to access the telemetry 2 page, to get to that you have to scroll as before.. choose com2 port and I now have telemetry and a spoken low battery alert.Should help my quad not fall out the sky at 12v instead of landing at 13.8..
as I said before that "Shortcut menu" is still not ready. This is NOT a released version. It is a test version. Things might get changed around..
when I unplug the quad I lose the TX value in telemetry but the A1,A2 and RX values remain on the screen at whatever level they were at. Is this normal? Not a problem just seems strange that one value should zero and not the others..
Very normal..
finally when the radio is turned on yes it's a huge improvement that it doesn't recite every voice alert switch position one after the other, however my comment was just that after the splash screen I get ALERT in big letters with alarms disabled underneath and press any key at the bottom. Again works fine just wondered if it's an intended thing or not.. Is it just referring to the disabling of the initial voice alerts/warnings etc or something else, ie can I just hit a button and ignore it :)
The "ALERT" in big letters at startup is telling you that either the throttle stick is not at idle, or you have switches that are not in the OFF position. If you need some switches to be in a different position at startup you can change their default position.
Go to the main model configuration page, the one to the right of the "select model menu", and scroll down to default switch. Move the switches to where you want them to be at startup and hit "menu". The new position is now stored and you must have the switches in the new position when you turn the radio on or load that model..


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On loss of telemetry I force the Tx RSSI value to 0 as an indication (and something that may be tested in a custom switch) that telemetry has been lost.

The alarms disabled is because you have the beeper set to "quiet" and the "Alarm warning" set to ON.

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MikeB wrote:On loss of telemetry I force the Tx RSSI value to 0 as an indication (and something that may be tested in a custom switch) that telemetry has been lost.

The alarms disabled is because you have the beeper set to "quiet" and the "Alarm warning" set to ON.

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that's the answer I was looking for.. haven't actually looked but yes from memory I have exactly that beeper quiet and Alarm warning on..

jhsa.. I'm aware of the stick or switch initial position warning but in any of those cases either there is a written warning such as "throttle stick not at idle" or the actual "RUD" is there to indicate which switch isn't at it's proper startup position.. I had none of these just the ALERT and "alarms disabled" message which Mike has , as usual, explained succinctly..

cheers guys you rock as ever.. sun has come out here so I'm off out to fly my new QAV500 and test the various voice alarms.. liking the "after/before" thing for announcing voltage values etc.. as I never use the TRN switch it's now flight pack volt announcement :) after falling from the sky once I can't have too many layers of low flight battery info
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gizmatron wrote: I had none of these just the ALERT and "alarms disabled" message which Mike has , as usual, explained succinctly..
Ahhh, yes, forgot about it..
Good luck with your flight..

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Hi guys

This great solution works in a version 2.0.12 ?


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This is not the same firmware. The thread is about ersky9xr, not OpenTX. Many things are not done the same way in both.
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I would like to know the difference between both systems, Open TX isn't the evolution of ERSKY9X.....ER9x? Because they are very similar on the screens.
If any one could explain or point me a topic, I'll be grateful.

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openTx was split from er9x/ersky9x some time ago. Since then both openTx and er9x/ersky9X have been developed so, while there are many similarities, there are also now quite a number of differencies.
ersky9x is available for the Taranis hardware.

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vavanet wrote:I would like to know the difference between both systems, Open TX isn't the evolution of ERSKY9X.....ER9x?
No, not evolution because ersky9x and er9x are also being developed so they have their own evolution ;) :D
OpernTX started on er9x but has gone it's own way. Both are getting very different. Of course the base is the same, but with time I believe the differences will become more evident..

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oops Mike was faster.. :) :D
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