9XR pro module choices

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Hi all,

I do have a 9xr with an Assan module. I think I have more than 20 receivers for this setup.
Recently got the 9xr pro and I was looking at telemetry for this one. All my RX's are not telemetry prepared so I think I have to switch to an other system. So what should that be?
1. The Orange module using the internal antenna? (currently out of stock at HK)
2. An older orange module that I should modify to use the internal antenna and telemetry (is that an option?)
3. An frsky DJT module with a simple internal resistor mod for telemetry (is this going end of life at Frsky?)
4. An XJT frsky module that is telemetry ready but need modification to use the internal antenna.

I am not on FPV (is allowed no more at our country) but primarily flying electric pakflyers (1.8meters span max) and small gliders (eglider and DLG)
I was on the route buying the DJT module but then I noticed that Frsky will end their D type sensorline. On the XJT I don't like the pads on the receiver.
Orange is nice to bind BNF type planes. I need a small rx like the assan 4ch to fit in my mini DLG.

So many choices and I'm not very familiar with these matters so any advise is appreciated.


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Why not the multi protocol module? You will be able to fly the frsky stuff, Flysky, the DSM stuff, and I believe Assan as well..

https://github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Mul ... Details.md

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthr ... -TX-Module

Where to buy..

https://www.banggood.com/2_4G-CC2500-NR ... mds=search

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Sounds like a great option.
What version should I buy for the 9xr pro? I see JR, FlySky and Frsky.
Can I use the on board USB on the new module to flash the firmware?

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I would buy the frsky version.. I am waiting for mine to arrive. They didn't have the frsky version when I bought it, so I got the JR version. I will have to flash it to the Frsky channel order. I think that might be the only difference, but not sure.
I believe the USB connector is for flashing it.. Will find out how it works when I get it ;) Hopefully in the next few days :)

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Think I go for the frsky version and do a search for internal antenna connection. I can produce the housing myself with my 3d printer :)

would you keep us posted, how you are doing?

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sure..

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Right I ordered one of those modules. I was looking at banggood and saw something like this module.
https://www.banggood.com/2_4G-CC2500-A7 ... 48377.html
In the text there is a paragraph about range:

Tested Ground Control Distance:
  • CC2500: V8FR receiver with Frsky protocol,about 240m.
  • A7105: WLToys V911 helicopter with Flysky 8 ch receiver,based on Flysky protocol,about 240m.
  • CYFR6936: Spektrum MCPX helicopter with DSM2 protocol,Walkera SUPERCP helicopter with DEVO protocol,about 200m,
  • NRF24L01: WLToys V977 helicopter with KN protocol,use Walkera DEVO transmitter,about 200m (If equipped with MCU baseplate,only 50m).
    Hisky : HCP100S helicopter with Hisky protocol,about 70m
It looks the same except it is no equipped with an USB port. So how about the range of this module??

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jhsa wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:33 pm I would buy the frsky version.. I am waiting for mine to arrive. They didn't have the frsky version when I bought it, so I got the JR version. I will have to flash it to the Frsky channel order. I think that might be the only difference, but not sure.
I believe the USB connector is for flashing it.. Will find out how it works when I get it ;) Hopefully in the next few days :)

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I have read that the channel order only matters if you use the module in PPM. If you bridge the pads, it will be in serial mode and like this it really doesnt matter, since you can change that on the radio itself.
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hunter58 wrote: Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:39 pm Right I ordered one of those modules. I was looking at banggood and saw something like this module.
https://www.banggood.com/2_4G-CC2500-A7 ... 48377.html
In the text there is a paragraph about range:

Tested Ground Control Distance:
  • CC2500: V8FR receiver with Frsky protocol,about 240m.
  • A7105: WLToys V911 helicopter with Flysky 8 ch receiver,based on Flysky protocol,about 240m.
  • CYFR6936: Spektrum MCPX helicopter with DSM2 protocol,Walkera SUPERCP helicopter with DEVO protocol,about 200m,
  • NRF24L01: WLToys V977 helicopter with KN protocol,use Walkera DEVO transmitter,about 200m (If equipped with MCU baseplate,only 50m).
    Hisky : HCP100S helicopter with Hisky protocol,about 70m
It looks the same except it is no equipped with an USB port. So how about the range of this module??

Ruud
Version 2 of that module will be released soon, so they say in the module description.
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Note that most of those range results are with various relatively short range receivers used in little helis. They have no necessary relationship to the range to be achieved with a full sensitivity receiver, as used for larger fixed wing models and multirotors.
I don't know about results with other chips, but the CYYFR6336, which supports DSM2 and DSMX, gives essentially "full range" results when tested with a "full range" receiver.
An exception is that the FrSky protocol was tested with a V8FR receiver, which is a "full range". So the relatively short range shown may reflect a low power implementation of the C2500 chip in the module.
Or it may be matter of the way the tests were done, which was concerned with whether the module gave enough range to fly the little helis, not necessarily whether they could support longer range flying. Not many people are willing to carry out a full range test -- 240m is plenty for these purposes. A full range test might require separation of 1-2km or more.
The bottom line is that the report should be taken with a grain or two of salt.
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I did do a range test on my DIY multiprotocol module with a STM32 chip. The RF stage was the same sold with the AVR type module. I had signal using the frsky D protocol at 1.5Km distance. I wouldn't recommend flying that far though

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Good news.
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OctavioS wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:04 am Version 2 of that module will be released soon, so they say in the module description.
That's BS - They copy/pasted the description of the AVR module, that note was valid about a year ago...

Edit: It IS the AVR module...
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Kilrah wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:45 am
OctavioS wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:04 am Version 2 of that module will be released soon, so they say in the module description.
That's BS - They copy/pasted the description of the AVR module, that note was valid about a year ago...
Really, so this supposed version 2 was for the AVR module?
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The link he posted where that is mentioned actually IS the AVR module.

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